From lojban+bncCMvjp-TQBRCm-PHfBBoE6YbHIg@googlegroups.com Tue May 25 18:41:13 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.217.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OH5cI-0008JK-VM; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:41:12 -0700 Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26sf4801553gxk.10 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:sender :received:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=NUxeUnF/yIgKbnkue3sGeBYUvGkQ3xeYukRhoElA7j0=; b=EB5Uk7tOj0k+bwCfivSAdz5BjV/LAmxeNH0JDjWVoK7Z2+55nWDybxFtowC0+Szg2r gZmOOSOaB7spPIMynQQ3xwfQB/toLmeiiH4oYPnN90wvYV/KTxzRUnfmFAcTsSoUCRTf 9q7qKdqAH4nLsnSOMajU9JvZL/CQ5Tu6RjIyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=HgamztVyTvJ5Vjl6yIUZZ6YHRXmVxTugrypm/4wf/Qto23IH6pfd5RYKKCvFzFgr5l 5Zfm/Dz7vtf9MfDvnGAAnD11UDuqGW1hi81rC5p2fayXdCZTBwvVDqhWoZZM1q9AySaA jOexhc4jlJWMQ+hE6imo/8Omjdj7vOgyvI7+4= Received: by 10.151.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr407494ybl.84.1274838054911; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.247.33 with SMTP id u33ls86016ybh.4.p; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.183.7 with SMTP id g7mr3241683ybf.17.1274838053889; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.183.7 with SMTP id g7mr3241682ybf.17.1274838053529; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f47.google.com (mail-gw0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v3si5606511ybe.6.2010.05.25.18.40.52; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.47; Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1794435gwb.34 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.177.16 with SMTP id e16mr9794881anp.221.1274838052267; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.57.18 with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 2010 18:40:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4e37532f-631a-41f2-a341-2895efaea0b6@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> From: Daniel Brockman Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 03:40:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] fu'ivla's definition: loanword or morphological class To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Much like the English word "salsa" (which means a specific > Spanish-related type of sauce, whereas the Spanish word "salsa" simply > means "sauce"), the Lojban word {fu'ivla} should mean "loanword", > whereas the English word "fu'ivla" should mean "member of the Lojban > morphological class of brivla designed to accomodate loanwords". Exactly my opinion. For the morphological class, I suggest {zi'evla} (once coined by selckiku): http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/zi'evla I also think we should add a fifth place to {fu'ivla}, for the source language. Would anyone object to that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.