From lojban+bncCMvjp-TQBRCug_LfBBoEYs-aPA@googlegroups.com Tue May 25 19:04:53 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OH5z9-0001XY-0N; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:52 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf4701709gyd.16 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:sender :received:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CcT6kOtmNQytGF03AfNrjsMieTwpfaIfcJWCPxqT44E=; b=mtU60zCve5iz8bgRkAYSI1mmzSqPUz+2jNtFKmGimBIMJoTe4M+7T1nwrP8g6RPe7V 08j8Tz2dikwyBNVvHzmAkiqqQjG2xJ4ulcyzy2ca/MBPK/KmrSer1Lg8xhSrvzbmoHx1 WNeI9rMUp3G/rYpK+tENocukT66p90Dhlvah0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gY2I87yr3VbLRUBNdlF3OrXyvKlNPnv88ZNVjcixlHQ7BWK0yAM24BeJ2vt1lFtzS0 9ye/Q+QZ8+aeFSh+kpiXiFkFprRA0ul2hHR/JbzBFpp9NrB4HYCR9eFMZV0Txv++BGb0 +kBo7d/s6V0wov5J6xaePn/l3x0qj+DzZmgHM= Received: by 10.151.17.1 with SMTP id u1mr412091ybi.85.1274839470236; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.234.22 with SMTP id g22ls90649ybh.7.p; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.175.7 with SMTP id x7mr3240747ybe.26.1274839469653; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.175.7 with SMTP id x7mr3240744ybe.26.1274839469599; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v4si5210783ybe.1.2010.05.25.19.04.28; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.54; Received: by gwj18 with SMTP id 18so2122138gwj.13 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.134.13 with SMTP id l13mr9767077ann.118.1274839468139; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.57.18 with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 2010 19:04:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201005252152.09599.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <4e37532f-631a-41f2-a341-2895efaea0b6@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <201005252152.09599.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Daniel Brockman Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 04:04:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] fu'ivla's definition: loanword or morphological class To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> For the morphological class, I suggest {zi'evla} (once coined by selckik= u): >> >> =A0 =A0 http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/zi'evla > > That word has a place for the meaning, whereas we sometimes need to discu= ss > meaningless "words" like "adjgadja" and "bongnanba". We have the same problem with {cmavo}, {gismu}, {lujvo} and {cmevla}. >> I also think we should add a fifth place to {fu'ivla}, for the source >> language. Would anyone object to that? > > I agree that "fu'ivla" should have places for both the source word and it= s > language. That's good enough for me; I'll add it to jbovlaste. (It's backwards-compa= tible anyway.) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.