From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRDo5f_fBBoE1rU-Lg@googlegroups.com Fri May 28 09:44:42 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OI2fk-0007Gx-Jn; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:41 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf1304935gyd.16 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8zHM9MzKxIMIQa+qNhXgU1YJQNmZYpnka6uiRFBWbos=; b=mn652nVZlhzfhQIagc51q6WhNk9I8+zlwklNzOi9NIyT5h9Du7rGW4dX+V171vn7Ty QmmNsYh/6IdkKsJfczRRGc1sG3Zkhs+2+U1u68yaPjBEjvCEurQEpi5nZ1ciYNlYqaUS ZrQzEJtmKk7WEIkk+KgbuQlIw6UDq/zLEhUr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=5PPqIb+TrwJ9WAW2+3vwxSgxNQJ9y3T5frwHu+pv0qqzfNagpUfmGYb0UuHqMo/vyR 2FFMDBme0U/yQq3aWxyPmcoZENnHaW/8tMgO9fX50zwnsEMINU4NFZu09oBhJLhVQMTw DDKgiSBxqIVKXvyNXA8xxrMI03UHKc+gX47Gg= Received: by 10.150.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr81315ybe.28.1275065064942; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.17.15 with SMTP id u15ls881248ybi.0.p; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.16.19 with SMTP id t19mr563305ybi.6.1275065063125; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.16.19 with SMTP id t19mr563304ybi.6.1275065063106; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.118]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id v4si3151664ybe.1.2010.05.28.09.44.21; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.118 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.118; Received: (qmail 6401 invoked by uid 60001); 28 May 2010 16:44:21 -0000 Message-ID: <556832.6378.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _AvqEWwVM1kN7p4duvMWLwojrobqZhZOBvagqlqzLbf9WMq t_bCK1xTSLgKncPIODMXMvx7.wzOSD4En2plnu2Pcp1XqZjs6XDRI3d5_s7C Cv0ubQg1IIfHkE8IYtVbDGzC3rRBtFrmobCve.sCpRUcCddp_.Mjhx.KWEkO JntioFtni_wd7jA2io5ulVZc0bv2ZgaFXvIQ71jLpLAxe6IVlc.yZROcJa4T jso9UegCK_Ur_vGg7G4t2oVF.HzHoULt3rK3sbSVjUZVQNUEPwRUAbAPzIUp 7wD9TUs_CLBwMy37poLTPrAVrA4sozIODIBSmRX3KeEj0p9o_VYekvFA- Received: from [71.14.73.129] by web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:21 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/374.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 References: <3414c7b0-2a75-4cb2-99a4-0afa6458f6ba@t34g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <7ac5ef76-747a-4077-ac8d-bd45e0c68005@y6g2000pra.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Named multiples To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 <<> That aside, my point is that we create fu'ivla of exceptionally long > lujvo in an effort to keep them short. It's like the lojbanic version > of abbreviating things. That's really not done much at all (I first heard of it a few months ago), but it is a somewhat nifty approach.>> Have y'all forgotten Zipf's law, which, while not prescriptive, is certainly predictive? If you don't like this trick, try another, but someone is going to do the cutting sometime for sure (assuming the language lives). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.