From lojban+bncCMvjp-TQBRCu6__fBBoEYGYbNg@googlegroups.com Fri May 28 09:56:42 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OI2rM-0007wo-84; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:42 -0700 Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19sf281909vws.16 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:sender :received:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7zVVCRDOKYZNgmlsorcJ/bez7wujhJ+mYokEiFXmQyQ=; b=LNS+e6Lagky9MPgSmGzZsY+Lz/UI/k0CvncJTq5Di6F3JSTwuZurtscmXgVENV+iQ+ uteXjN/Sz8cQHRw3ls4ZHRYRFvJqd8g/8ajc1WfPj1yBB4wjFpQAQK14rwJYn4UfLQZd C+FTUV5nXudZqLLTO8DBqFn3YthmoDD6OSI+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=N1CsB8dnCbdcQb4NQA53+ky6CSJpzceoDMIElKXY4QNzKKp4kMb1fwv1OCD3hlZUY6 WPrN5ynMfIDz9orkFDd777MUVsvl9QpmTP/4s6+EVHp1RMZWXfXIWvQtPlb0Rx/oA+o9 Z9yddegQcgrmniR9BFP7CmWRZFIPJDInkBw3Q= Received: by 10.220.122.132 with SMTP id l4mr48657vcr.33.1275065774180; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.46.194 with SMTP id k2ls1054891vcf.2.p; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.75.194 with SMTP id z2mr145741vcj.14.1275065771693; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.75.194 with SMTP id z2mr145740vcj.14.1275065771663; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f52.google.com (mail-gw0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a29si1683286vcp.4.2010.05.28.09.56.10; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.52; Received: by mail-gw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 20so1553949gwj.11 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.133.31 with SMTP id k31mr805932ann.102.1275065770449; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.249.14 with HTTP; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Brockman Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:55:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Canonically context-dependent experimental cmavo? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if it would be a good idea to pick one cmavo as the canonical =93undefined cmavo=94 any obvious candidates for that? probably something with {x} in it Why? mostly just seems like something Lojban should have and would make it simpler to discuss new cmavo we wouldn=92t have to worry about picking a form just to be able t= o discuss it, but could just use {broda ze=92ei xau} or {xau} for short (if {xau} were the canonically undefined cmavo) well, canonically context-dependent experimental cmavo I guess would be a more accurate definition it would be sort of an explicit escape hatch out of the standard grammar and people wouldn=92t have wonder if they saw it; they would *know= * that it was temporary and experimental Weird. But I guess it might be useful, under weird circumstances. weird circumstances in lojbanistan: SNAFU zo snafu .u'ivla u'i ie --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.