From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDgjojgBBoEJQ5n4w@googlegroups.com Sat May 29 23:36:33 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OIc8K-0000Uu-Mg; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:33 -0700 Received: by vws15 with SMTP id 15sf69088vws.16 for ; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MyroEtjSqvvnoK2wLD/UNL253JMaP5A+UHaO7sdUMJU=; b=oVOyWvLGyOoUAJoN40fuF9k66Mb/EGpuibhe3GE6FF65cBjRS/Oqss4rbs301uKDGL XYXejvKmFfDJfZg96JgzQGpx8M9U3oM/Y7pkbkE5AAbXvxpJhA8z0uOIgp3ZAjCSaPuS oSi65PLhV4TmHGxfjV6rGvUEkFDu0IrlsWCT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=rqamNu3z4YISwzmWpDCLUykddUCJB44RMLathjbtfKFOimE+QeoRNWZ3DGaBA4wSuw kHigrhv1QO2Dq62303299WpomVPDLtBTLLBp1RGwuHUQfcXeM/UL2M8pEwBojK/j60Ho oD8XozPDff69edQUs+/RkamJcylcRUM38qgxc= Received: by 10.220.158.76 with SMTP id e12mr143522vcx.40.1275201376709; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.79.22 with SMTP id n22ls1563769vck.3.p; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.185.11 with SMTP id cm11mr728515vcb.12.1275201375799; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.185.11 with SMTP id cm11mr728514vcb.12.1275201375767; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l27si3069617vcr.6.2010.05.29.23.36.14; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.54; Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so3657285vws.13 for ; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.62.75 with SMTP id w11mr2058714vch.133.1275201374577; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.77 with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:36:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3414c7b0-2a75-4cb2-99a4-0afa6458f6ba@t34g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <7ac5ef76-747a-4077-ac8d-bd45e0c68005@y6g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <556832.6378.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <959500ee-ea4d-4acf-9353-f2c990ba25a7@t34g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 02:36:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Named multiples From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e887361f2e5740487c9f410 --e0cb4e887361f2e5740487c9f410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lo'ai li sa'ai le le'ai hmm, when I pronounce that to myself it sounds like Hawaiian poetry or something. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >>> Is {me} being removed from the grammar due to it not being necessary > >>> after this change? > >> > >> No, definitely not. > > > Then under what condition would it still be used? > > The example from the CLL for {me} is something like: {la djan me li ci > nolraitru} or something. > > > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Lindar wrote: > >> > Same as between {lo broca} and {la broca}. >> >> Ah... Makes sense. So la .lindar. is "Lindar." (a meaningless string >> of characters) and lo .lindar. is "Thing(s) named Lindar." ? That's >> nifty. >> >> > > Can cmevla have multiple places? >> > >> > I don't see why not? >> >> .spagetis. = x1 is spaghetti with sauce x2 >> ?? >> >> > > Is {me} being removed from the grammar due to it not being necessary >> > > after this change? >> > >> > No, definitely not. >> >> Then under what condition would it still be used? >> >> > > Could this possibly be used as a system for creating "slang" words? >> > >> > Sure, why not? That's a good thing about cmevla: they're easy to make. >> >> Then I shall coin the first rude Anglo slang, ".kul.". >> >> Well, I'm convinced. It seems like a decent idea as long as it doesn't >> get abused. Do we just start using it now, is there some kind of >> ceremony we have to have first, or... what now? Does everybody agree >> on exactly how it'll work? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e0cb4e887361f2e5740487c9f410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lo'ai li sa'ai le le'ai

hmm, when I pronounc= e that to myself it sounds like=A0Hawaiian=A0poetry or something.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail= .com> wrote:
>>> Is {me} being removed from the grammar due to it not being nec= essary
>>> after this change?
>>
>> No, definitely not.=

> Then under what condition would = it still be used?

The example from the CLL for {me} is something like: {la djan me li ci nolr= aitru} or something. =A0


On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Lindar <lindarthe= bard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Same as between {lo broca} and {la= broca}.

Ah... Makes sense. So la .lindar. is "Lindar." (a meaningle= ss string
of characters) and lo .lindar. is "Thing(s) named Lindar." ? That= 's
nifty.

> > Can cmevla have multiple places?
>
> I don't see why not?

.spagetis. =3D x1 is spaghetti with sauce x2
??

> > Is {me} being removed from the grammar due to it not being necess= ary
> > after this change?
>
> No, definitely not.

Then under what condition would it still be used?

> > Could this possibly be used as a system for creating "slang&= quot; words?
>
> Sure, why not? =A0That's a good thing about cmevla: they're ea= sy to make.

Then I shall coin the first rude Anglo slang, ".kul.".

Well, I'm convinced. It seems like a decent idea as long as it doesn= 9;t
get abused. Do we just start using it now, is there some kind of
ceremony we have to have first, or... what now? Does everybody agree
on exactly how it'll work?

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