From lojban+bncCOzcnrWBFBDOiIrgBBoEwdH_sQ@googlegroups.com Sun May 30 08:29:46 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OIkSD-00039H-Ra; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:46 -0700 Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36sf1057310wyg.16 for ; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:sender :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=d1aQ8W64GQauhDCPnn/smQ3l3QAVdIn7gBRWxRTZlcE=; b=j6I2nD0krdoj0mI1PYxF3AOcX6Rc1ovrQsCsYA48WNewGJmh5YzuSPho3FDXJYzOmE LQ3iCQA8BQj9m4FjQHS83fmXF1yR4kr/viXfVjQMVFELClXD1CQIQZ5oia6s5Yxhvbjc PHfNKP5egUAOGGttk90AvFPrOlXJtmT8rlvBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=bWywrPfwLN06oEmyikzErjE0uPycAEN9RyPhlxmugb/I5y2dBv08QWedOB7u7DFNnc 4MNZhSbmy7YPvNZEcXvQ1Ktksh/dCEKdhzf7wM9MVsU7Ss3q4qkfgHsMur/TzzdpoUF+ +kn5vk8qejrnNCxXA3d0kLiJMQG/DGo3dKm3I= Received: by 10.223.64.212 with SMTP id f20mr92219fai.18.1275233358490; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.66.18 with SMTP id l18ls1716774fai.1.p; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.100.134 with SMTP id y6mr201707fan.12.1275233357684; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.100.134 with SMTP id y6mr201706fan.12.1275233357646; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f46.google.com (mail-vw0-f46.google.com [209.85.212.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 22si4683909fas.4.2010.05.30.08.29.16; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.46; Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so1141094vws.19 for ; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.123.156 with SMTP id p28mr1168008qar.152.1275233355446; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.141.8 with HTTP; Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1275230910.1511.5.camel@gumri> References: <1275230910.1511.5.camel@gumri> Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:29:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Named multiples From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pascal.akihiko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f93dd402839670487d167a6 --00c09f93dd402839670487d167a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 30 May 2010 15:48, Dag Odenhall wrote: > > A predicate "xorxes" could mean "is named 'xorxes'", if anything at > > all. In any case, in "la xorxes" the meaning of the predicate is as > > irrelevant as the meaning of "donri" in "la donri". "la" in any case > > removes the meaning from the word that follows. > > {la donri} means "That named Day". {la} does not remove the meaning. > I would say {la donri} means "That named 'donri'". {la} removes the place structure from {donri}. What's left then is just a string of letters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00c09f93dd402839670487d167a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 30 May 2010 15:48, Dag Odenhall <dag.odenhall@gmail.com> wrote:
> A predicate "xorxes" could mean "is n= amed 'xorxes'", if anything at
> all. In any case, in "la xorxes" the meaning of the predicat= e is as
> irrelevant as the meaning of "donri" in "la donri"= . "la" in any case
> removes the meaning from the word that follows.

{la donri} means "That named Day". {la} does not remove the= meaning.

=A0I would say {la donri} means "Th= at named 'donri'". {la} removes the place structure from {donr= i}. What's left then is just a string of letters.
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