From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDgwZDfBBoE5pJtcA@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 07:17:39 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f149.google.com ([209.85.221.149]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OAOMr-0000Pi-Vp; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:38 -0700 Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13sf610179qyk.1 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=iteB3ah4yJU7Mf8+7RN9Rxe0uHHJd3GvFdDmTBAyWWM=; b=etlITqwbPMZNnZWxMbocwCi2v3UJ+aypk4DlOCo+QLNB4cugOPKLuFpoAV09NCwpv0 tee44HYffmvMHSwInctqiKUEAYX9RvMoM3goOGGa0cwOhJcinJep5sAsP+6Egp5cCVJP K/jrsAb1omWJeeH1lDETS3b3YKTD3N2ELGros= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ZxmM+u1uY1ttTijB6vqwQirdSsgESxYTVoHNUz84lqjh9+XzsQFwlyzI6FKeD98G/d ac15b7H0qDLxSnZ2LzysIQ3XnI9dElrNhg0tyFj4rumr0UPwudRkEsFcSd/jJFtHSmtt E3il5k/I3TRRT01I6lvYxPgvOJA2vh7j/UCO4= Received: by 10.224.84.205 with SMTP id k13mr1199133qal.8.1273241824216; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.10.160 with SMTP id p32ls8112692qcp.2.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.144 with SMTP id ig16mr1934435qcb.25.1273241822952; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.144 with SMTP id ig16mr1934431qcb.25.1273241822185; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f42.google.com (mail-vw0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si437569qyk.7.2010.05.07.07.17.01; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.42; Received: by mail-vw0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 14so925986vws.1 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.122.37 with SMTP id j37mr6441vcr.214.1273241820546; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.77 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 07:17:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100507141139.GD29740@nvg.org> References: <20100507141139.GD29740@nvg.org> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:17:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] PA ji'i PA From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369c8da66d46fe048601b6ba --0016369c8da66d46fe048601b6ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both seem like pretty useful constructs. Whichever one is "correct", how would one express the other meaning? On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 11:11:45AM +0100, tijlan wrote: > > The interpretation of what {ji'i} does between two PA strings seems > varying > > among jbopre: > > > > http://jbotcan.org/en/res/1523.html > > > > I would like to see a bit more of discussion on this. Should {muno ji'i > xano > > prenu} mean "fifty or sixty people" or "five thousand and approximately > > sixty people"? > > The CLL is pretty clear on the fact that the latter is correct: > http://dag.github.com/cll/18/9/ > Why Jorge asserts the former I have no idea. > > -- > Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ > =ABN=E5r jeg kommer til kloakken, er det for =E5 rense opp - n=E5r Zola b= es=F8ker det > samme sted, er det for =E5 bade!=BB --Henrik Ibsen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016369c8da66d46fe048601b6ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both seem like pretty useful constructs. =A0Whichever one is "correct&= quot;, how would one express the other meaning?

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 1= 1:11:45AM +0100, tijlan wrote:
> The interpretation of what {ji'i} does between two PA strings seem= s varying
> among jbopre:
>
> =A0h= ttp://jbotcan.org/en/res/1523.html
>
> I would like to see a bit more of discussion on this. Should {muno ji&= #39;i xano
> prenu} mean "fifty or sixty people" or "five thousand a= nd approximately
> sixty people"?

The CLL is pretty clear on the fact that the latter is correct:
http://dag.gi= thub.com/cll/18/9/
Why Jorge asserts the former I have no idea.

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Arnt Richard Johansen =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0http://arj.nvg= .org/
=ABN=E5r jeg kommer til kloakken, er det for =E5 rense opp - n=E5r Zola bes= =F8ker det
samme sted, er det for =E5 bade!=BB =A0--Henrik Ibsen

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