From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCSgpHfBBoEjlSHlA@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 09:34:50 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OAQVe-0005dc-4S; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:50 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf944918gyd.16 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N/uaNsXw25ExosYD3NecAHMqGSvjNhtX5mMLj62dx6k=; b=pScX1DOJmYuqZ6dW0HN+i496kEm5/QULEVFq8/klzAU/UnHGr2CblM1SsiLX98bVnp hCTSUhQO9n9ed0gUZWlmvukRQPZSzCsj/JnywmCkKGbcelu+x+XrMlXx2RqPVE2zVpIv eJ3ua2dKGbdZvYILCtoL3kTFqlF7SEMsXzopw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=VWKz2OKNcRhkF9ELfeGSDtDIKLkzJi+Dx8sf1Ohg2c2xOt+J10QnwzItwUcHcCjDBR GbntPxsERPZ3PFe1j9d4oW+GOe2/uGNY2M5huA1imVAW6Km3IOhScgYQRo8AwtmTL5jm grN7kXJjFKxubKfJFyvJIgGDePYVvHPSO5osc= Received: by 10.151.116.12 with SMTP id t12mr171254ybm.79.1273250066709; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.168.36 with SMTP id v36ls6931326ano.4.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.196.20 with SMTP id y20mr256819anp.10.1273250066102; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.196.20 with SMTP id y20mr256816anp.10.1273250066001; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 17si210648gxk.12.2010.05.07.09.34.24; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.192 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.192; Received: by mail-qy0-f192.google.com with SMTP id 30so2013713qyk.16 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.69.203 with SMTP id a11mr81081qaj.271.1273250064796; Fri, 07 May 2010 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.82.11 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:34:24 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.192 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I'm not sure how to say "persuade"; there's a translation in > jbovlaste, but it's for "persuade that something is true", not "persuade to > do something". Similarly: djuno: know that something is true ????: know how to do something facki: find out that something is true ????: find out how to do something cilre: learn that something is true ????: learn to do something ctuca: teach that something is true ????: teach to do something morji: remember that something is true ????: remember to do something jdice: decide that something is true ????: decide to do something Solve one and maybe you will solve them all. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.