From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCiypHfBBoEZzKJcA@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 12:08:38 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f168.google.com ([209.85.210.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OASuY-0000XU-Lu; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:37 -0700 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40sf859788yxe.28 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QC+n56CEmt4WtkbVPdL13VZqgp3fHPfKCI4T3zexyn0=; b=6Oql7SjQbOEqh/0wgzCx3kkyq7sJ32d+cN7NxJAUYJIZzDM5zKgVjeWQxmbZ6PH2x5 L7R3OPGoLQ1cs0666z9aRNy1xkgYK+0STeK2Xdak+wNQXNu378tnK5zVz1le9GfT9R7C XGvNM7aOOr3XES8wRg2xg4N+WL3T6k0gdbBdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=CgUV3WGV5UNolKHnZPdKxVv5EvGXZW0vXT1GocphZ2XKTPfLo+whlLAaIhNS1kK+Fx aLoKrpC3bc06bbJzruKh0S+4qGijRRh23NaKwCXbZIV1lTpePx2B2xDpFUeqgu6eBzbz SL5LTafx6Mai8uDdggbgLgiJmYxDpMjuEDJoo= Received: by 10.101.27.34 with SMTP id e34mr28468anj.8.1273259298098; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.174.37 with SMTP id b37ls7240111anp.6.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.137.23 with SMTP id p23mr362359ann.36.1273259297368; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.137.23 with SMTP id p23mr362358ann.36.1273259297326; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f178.google.com (mail-qy0-f178.google.com [209.85.221.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si183301yxe.6.2010.05.07.12.08.16; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.178; Received: by mail-qy0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 8so2248199qyk.4 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.73.17 with SMTP id o17mr217983qaj.301.1273259296079; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.82.11 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 12:08:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:08:15 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Attempting this, I find I can only do this using gasnu, djuno, and tadji, > using djuno as the main bridi: {ko'a djuno lodu'u tadji be lonu ko'e se > gasnu} That comes out as: "x1 knows that (something) is a method for x2 to be brought about" > What would {ko'a jungau ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u} be in English? "x1 tells/makes known to x2 fact(s) x3 (du'u) about subject x4 by epistemology x5." Lujvo ending in -gau are very regular, they normally mean x1 makes (whatever the other part is) happen. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.