From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDS05HfBBoEwvZmDg@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 12:28:45 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OATE1-0001m0-CY; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:45 -0700 Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17sf572398wwi.16 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Am+giVBMU+8vKpLCdwKxUNePr3U1GdrFrZkN5Ndbr8c=; b=M9+WuuyND7dq+VeaXF8w6rwmsq8ptooQXT9AQPC3zFU0PBFQI3liIMN5Kv1ZGKiS6p jvN3yzcAj/Xu5RHCIJVyumqfGQVDrvGxCyLAY0GSYAl9imGsWz1vqYGvJCeM4jeHepaK MJDRtGo+WklGvBsg164AD0q5zTpSzB2p2kT0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=gYsUcKO4GNrxydgCXbhm1HXhKloYCo0KHG+ZBrzC3YuLgE53JGID+RhVkR3OTGLUI1 tTfFuQLOwQDYnOmOVfWDAsb6M+LVoAFoKvIKFpLlhm4O8G8tPVz9tAA7WMvgf03P9lK+ jq/Ho3PdvvtBkacx/DGb/bYNRkO4pRh5HuNCk= Received: by 10.223.15.141 with SMTP id k13mr60383faa.41.1273260498148; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.24.105 with SMTP id w83ls3182536wew.1.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.89.8 with SMTP id b8mr30775wef.19.1273260496798; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.89.8 with SMTP id b8mr30774wef.19.1273260496755; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p33si2961277wba.3.2010.05.07.12.28.15; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.182; Received: by mail-wy0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 36so991403wyb.41 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.79 with SMTP id k57mr334348wef.161.1273260495117; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.51.7 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 12:28:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:28:14 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64544849ddc0486060f9a --0016e6d64544849ddc0486060f9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > 2010/5/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> >> > >> > Attempting this, I find I can only do this using gasnu, djuno, and >> tadji, >> > using djuno as the main bridi: {ko'a djuno lodu'u tadji be lonu ko'e s= e >> > gasnu} >> >> That comes out as: >> >> "x1 knows that (something) is a method for x2 to be brought about" >> > > Yes. 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On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jonathan Jones <= span dir=3D"ltr"><eyeonus@gmail.com= > wrote:


2010/5/7 Jorge Llamb= =EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Attempting this, I find I can only do this using gasnu, djuno, and tad= ji,
> using djuno as the main bridi: {ko'a djuno lodu'u tadji be lon= u ko'e se
> gasnu}

That comes out as:

"x1 knows that (something) is a method for x2 to be brought about"= ;

Yes. "x1 knows how (that something is= a method) to do x2"

I suppose I = should amend my suggestion to juntadjigau....

> What would {ko'a jungau ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u} be in= English?

"x1 tells/makes known to x2 fact(s) x3 (du'u) about subject = x4 by
epistemology x5."

Lujvo ending in -gau are very regular, they normally mean x1 makes
(whatever the other part is) happen.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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