From lojban+bncCOzcnrWBFBDE25HfBBoEFnn33w@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 12:45:28 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f165.google.com ([209.85.222.165]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OATUA-00035c-OB; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:28 -0700 Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37sf361911pzk.25 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :sender:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MaoKDoPgZp1VWRyy5jlDw6AHx/k19dKQXzcvznN7Pig=; b=REoCn7xNEyJDtJns01pV2cuMYdPivfI/uYZV6TscAR5JWEyPH0+fbBTBtT4+jtDTF0 CigLlXUZDBCZFTqJ7Tz380+VfN+EmBdhRk7zTaMTIp8TmW3ue4f69IengZCYOxZVYjgz F0SVasUv09ycbvfPagcnXDS0u657xezEsd4iA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=PEMmabSSJsd7lwUsReAt5NIgShpEzkl1LW2DLqvuOjebJZbBiTeWSQudEXgU0Di8t+ gvo0zcLg6kSbbdPhU10IueudBQnYVClnQGf88KafEgIUFIyphhXLg4mmK4YO/ANJuhRw DAhorMtIE95LQDshe+q5M1DsZMgSIDFJwRawE= Received: by 10.141.124.10 with SMTP id b10mr60251rvn.0.1273261508544; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.13.11 with SMTP id q11ls9178374rvi.3.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.9 with SMTP id g9mr22007rvb.30.1273261507491; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.234.30 with SMTP id g30mr2075138ybh.22.1273260202899; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.234.30 with SMTP id g30mr2075137ybh.22.1273260202850; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f173.google.com (mail-qy0-f173.google.com [209.85.221.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si173543yxe.8.2010.05.07.12.23.21; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.173; Received: by mail-qy0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 4so2488521qyk.21 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:23:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.38.141 with SMTP id b13mr311598qce.97.1273260201630; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.1.222 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 12:23:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 20:23:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pascal.akihiko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f0b5065dcc048605fe00 --00163630f0b5065dcc048605fe00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 7 May 2010 03:38, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I'm not sure how to say "persuade"; there's a translation in > jbovlaste, but it's for "persuade that something is true", not "persuade to > do something". > Maybe "ckixlu": xl1=c1 persuades xl2=c=3 to do xl3 by influence xl4=c4. mu'o mi'e tijlan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00163630f0b5065dcc048605fe00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7 May 2010 03:38, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
I'm not sure how to say "persuade"; there's a translation= in
jbovlaste, but it's for "persuade that something is true", no= t "persuade to
do something".

Maybe "ckixlu":
<= br>xl1=3Dc1 persuades xl2=3Dc=3D3 to do xl3 by influence xl4=3Dc4.

m= u'o mi'e tijlan

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