From lojban+bncCOzcnrWBFBDF25HfBBoEQxwnEg@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 12:45:30 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f165.google.com ([209.85.222.165]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OATUB-00035e-FQ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:30 -0700 Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37sf361917pzk.25 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :sender:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=CvfKyEgHqbPM+VaGa0roliDiuoq8VCB0cA2NpGiM6o4=; b=1Stg5LfBUJ/+GVbzJhzJavpUh2K/noUrEL1V6vdthBvjVknuVdajU9vjI6OXmDzzPh TU9eB/7k4O8T+6Lv6nwVbW+5CwTYm8SWx17Hpu2H1yTeA57gcgLvH5Ar/A0u5HZ1jisH SfGh7qfUybqFHrVrooUJhPCp3+HLeXDXYKKBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=Pi/+VwnzVWsrlfaghMwKU/7PxGsX8uqYmtgMTVj36wfpadPSMGPnwbjH3UlKo5nmhx JOAy+Ea1yIApgjcyOGW1fV3EqKSO5z2FtgQQWFm4ZGE/fKDWuLRzrdFjDMIn5qgwhyRm kpJ84Q/6adDm1L8AZwEwdZxVzodLErC2WVEm0= Received: by 10.140.83.22 with SMTP id g22mr54842rvb.11.1273261509169; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.255.17 with SMTP id c17ls9175204rvi.2.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.22.14 with SMTP id z14mr22610rvi.28.1273261507970; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.36.18 with SMTP id r18mr40872qad.5.1273261116973; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.36.18 with SMTP id r18mr40871qad.5.1273261116937; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f49.google.com (mail-vw0-f49.google.com [209.85.212.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si489406qyk.6.2010.05.07.12.38.35; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.49; Received: by mail-vw0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 4so346536vws.8 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.251.69 with SMTP id mr5mr325195qcb.91.1273261115601; Fri, 07 May 2010 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.1.222 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 20:38:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pascal.akihiko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b91208074ae04860634ab --0016363b91208074ae04860634ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 7 May 2010 20:23, Luke Bergen wrote: > hmm, I've often wondered about that. What exactly is the difference > between {cikygau} and {cikyri'a}? For example: mi cikygau do fi'o cikri'a lo junla I do your being woken up by a clock. {mi} prepares the clock so that it wakes {do} up, hence the agent of {do}'s waking up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016363b91208074ae04860634ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7 May 2010 20:23, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
hmm, I've often wondered about that. =A0What exactly is the difference = between {cikygau} and {cikyri'a}?

For example:
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=A0mi cikygau do fi'o cikri'a lo junla
=A0I do your being wo= ken up by a clock.

{mi} prepares the clock so that it wakes {do} up, hence the agent of {d= o}'s waking up.

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