From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCr-5HfBBoEfKIw8w@googlegroups.com Fri May 07 13:53:18 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f149.google.com ([209.85.221.149]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OAUXq-0007T0-7H; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:53:17 -0700 Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13sf862317qyk.1 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=JpfinYlqtOMFdkz23vvxaW3tHW4T0RWP++I5+aJMceA=; b=kRNNuerGjs00Pae0fc12hUA4C8dDiLKQcHo0nXfLoJF49DTnf9OyG/tlOPbckJmcLF EX0fM7ekj02feskjQ45GS2mrnukF5MLOoIIQnrXQB0Hetae9EX9blwt8/G47s8wo72qS vAUX24CDBzMkrM7d0EpowmOhAicw6U5FV2mMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=qu2b8+3ONEUwS/hG2okqmh2wE+ej/ckirek2NfOzycD/lSAHYoxwmiZSoSnHT/zUAp 3J7E4bIbZR5tgUuQuvlksD3V5VlQmy4E8J9vJq98Fnct8JpoPzkU/frnTRb7q1X47w3v kkpIeCcRZIZ0zwlUNQRtkX3Q24z4e+vSqKjdk= Received: by 10.229.43.208 with SMTP id x16mr43100qce.35.1273265579658; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.247.131 with SMTP id mc3ls6777024qcb.1.p; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.187.146 with SMTP id cw18mr51461qcb.4.1273265578173; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.187.146 with SMTP id cw18mr51460qcb.4.1273265578147; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si543348qyk.1.2010.05.07.13.52.57; Fri, 07 May 2010 13:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=NIOYnwefqCV/MKW0EFJDPpcpEuWwVTNQGA0aDJzefgU= c=1 sm=0 a=S0dHYMV49UsA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=kDPDoJPaw3jHmBtTkBEA:9 a=iIgmn8Mn_us7UHrWGmvw5g-ngxsA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:33705] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id C6/FC-19267-9AD74EB4; Fri, 07 May 2010 20:52:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F55A2FE for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 16:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:52:53 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201005062238.58059.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201005071652.54868.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 07 May 2010 15:23:10 Luke Bergen wrote: > hmm, I've often wondered about that. What exactly is the difference > between {cikygau} and {cikyri'a}? I'd say: {mi cikyzu'e do} if I tapped you in bed so that we could leave in the next hour, {mi cikygau do} if I tapped you in bed just to wake you up, and {mi cikri'a do} if I tiptoed past you, tripped, and landed on your bed. Each sentence implies the following one. On Friday 07 May 2010 15:23:21 tijlan wrote: > Maybe "ckixlu": > > xl1=c1 persuades xl2=c=3 to do xl3 by influence xl4=c4. > > mu'o mi'e tijlan Sounds good to me. Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.