From lojban+bncCJuP2OfEBBC6mPrgBBoE4tRMlA@googlegroups.com Sun Jun 20 14:46:52 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OQSLn-0004LE-0B; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:52 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf597172vws.16 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:sender :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UythUdx9YGeZFzI96RL9q1VM1VRk60GQmwLvyNbYLjw=; b=IRg6caMWWKjWTKTnLUolMJTiVwMnN4LkEZuJHavLwR+fA5odoriloci9Lz0E9Zj8ei ygAd0PGwBTibZWSqrUwk/jXj8v3MUOUv6ZjWUfsFzbsj8oSj7DJ/Xuq/3qQ7OVcIR8gf RWnPrDRGO3sFnJOyTSnMPhxgjLBhzzuSkTolo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=YrWh8oOtXt98aS4WebaHG7mE4SS/gHkSNSYHJ2YcuAVbmXdPKR7DdixTbIg3JFn5yr A6vrH2HfYIlu+pSifZj6fsteiTkkX3HZ8hJxv3c9ktg0UavAY3GxPoo1winxWuUMLnAs jaJ3hU6FExXpuJ6E3pftrekLc879uVnIaxFPk= Received: by 10.220.126.151 with SMTP id c23mr26874vcs.13.1277070394488; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.69.217 with SMTP id a25ls710642vcj.3.p; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.202 with SMTP id ex10mr157835vcb.4.1277070393375; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.202 with SMTP id ex10mr157834vcb.4.1277070393151; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f47.google.com (mail-vw0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b16si1987308vco.7.2010.06.20.14.46.32; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of adamgarrigus@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.47; Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so841801vws.34 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.127.79 with SMTP id f15mr1532541vcs.131.1277070391895; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.44.206 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:46:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100619185857.GA27125@digitalkingdom.org> <201006201100.50695.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:46:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "noralujv" and camxes. From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of adamgarrigus@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=adamgarrigus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1ec0d0fe59b04897d1f9d --001636e1ec0d0fe59b04897d1f9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/6/20 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote= : > > On Saturday 19 June 2010 14:58:58 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> camxes doesn't like "noralujv", but vlatai does. Just wanted to > >> mention that so Pierre and xorxes could make sure that that > >> difference represents intention and not accident. > > > > This is known. Camxes does not accept words ending in two consonants. I > think > > they are valid (as long as the consonants are a valid medial pair and > > everything else is OK) and cite the example of "ralj" from the Book. I > > ran "noraluj" and "noraluv" through camxes and it took them both. > > Right, that's because ralj and lujv are not valid syllables. > > I wonder which syllable of noralujv people stress when/if they ever > pronounce that word? I think I pronounce it "no,ra,LU,jv". > I always say "NO,ra,lujv". mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Saturday 19 June 2010 14:58:58 Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>> camxes doesn't like "noralujv", but vlatai does. =A0= Just wanted to
>> mention that so Pierre and xorxes could make sure that that
>> difference represents intention and not accident.
>
> This is known. Camxes does not accept words ending in two consonants. = I think
> they are valid (as long as the consonants are a valid medial pair and<= br> > everything else is OK) and cite the example of "ralj" from t= he Book. I
> ran "noraluj" and "noraluv" through camxes and it = took them both.

Right, that's because ralj and lujv are not valid syllables.

I wonder which syllable of noralujv people stress when/if they ever
pronounce that word? I think I pronounce it "no,ra,LU,jv".

I always say "NO,ra,lujv". mu'o mi'e k= omfo,amonan

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