From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC2jIPhBBoEkpcB3A@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 22 07:18:50 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f158.google.com ([209.85.211.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OR4JI-00015q-8c; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:49 -0700 Received: by ywh30 with SMTP id 30sf8123526ywh.25 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OONoQSenwPFfmGI9rCdR/3Q8vUTmOHlQ9Oor9aa+P74=; b=vKLzyOnLkScstrxkIYhPNVDQCXttYmpuZpfmAI/lbiWJH6W0CMysDWRHtdNqcdtC32 WZAKTHQ9jNb3R/TS5AZiMmAJgPET6/WsurS1BSOqITJdcqQZQx9vCyS1NRn9uhib+oeW GuTpkqGpLltmSxHoRmov5ys+kvvpVYpc1wpcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JUyuDKgROVSWZFTa10hN/jE07+iTBjSCzpdmOYjxmssLM938I7o60VyyTR0jlaURRM KkXtMcCDn/rdseerv8EeD+Yta+Hm+8Pltxd69SC8ONf7x3bTzlDX/JNX83LAYwCoKkYb UVLalsfoL/EMmb0HLsMewrSGPjKEgx4M1FCng= Received: by 10.151.62.35 with SMTP id p35mr558060ybk.43.1277216310264; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.93.13 with SMTP id v13ls2597035ybl.2.p; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.252.14 with SMTP id z14mr4399209ybh.1.1277216308750; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.252.14 with SMTP id z14mr4399208ybh.1.1277216308710; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com (mail-vw0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u4si13027616ybe.15.2010.06.22.07.18.26; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.41; Received: by mail-vw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 4so2478161vws.14 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.123.34 with SMTP id n34mr4121641qar.43.1277216305674; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.82.2 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:18:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:18:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The place structure of {selma'o} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > =A0Using "selma'o" to describe "CMENE" and > "BRIVLA" is just plain wrong and sloppy, in my opinion. The thing is that when we talk about syntactic word classes there's hardly ever a reason to exclude CMENE and BRIVLA. So we have a word with a relatively useless restriction and a frequent meaning that is almost covered by that word, and the result is that the restricted word takes on that slightly more encompassing meaning. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.