From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCLgpvgBBoExh--pw@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 02 13:37:52 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OJuh5-0001Sn-VM; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:37:51 -0700 Received: by yxd39 with SMTP id 39sf558678yxd.16 for ; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:37:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HzU5R4wPh7zE+zj6Y8ZKe8vk6z6Xs/xbHBCykSn0Ba0=; b=Kch6pUuIcH+ldgzeZZ/LVlktmac+xXLQYtxzd9HB5m+bFF2o7Pj6Y5dQUNACh5wJCZ IBTRIcgZcD16yfWHV7/Ok9zOeggoM42Bn+Nmlgr5kvzSXRlMEFecfoQpk7ypFh21CJG3 7gopeHUtbOIdhR5FoCe88PVK3lXuiEi6dSvYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=42GZndBI5frLPbXVGEaTd8DZPrbWXpxhZUPxhZ6vt3Iwdk8lgRLzqt9vA8ioBkFBgB o252T4V5C6DOHz4Jz3WGytCl3WjIYxJhpSW9FHfzxA9a5MQHBLpyZjELxAbddSIbOJvR gUOHc7UuXvDS9yyRS73q/Letsg90Tfjup7YYo= Received: by 10.101.165.30 with SMTP id s30mr282837ano.25.1275511051440; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:37:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.139.8 with SMTP id r8ls1899431ann.7.p; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:37:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.152.38 with SMTP id e38mr279111ano.26.1275511049719; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:37:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 173.196.20.139 References: <556832.6378.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <959500ee-ea4d-4acf-9353-f2c990ba25a7@t34g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <676f1fae-2f5a-4609-8727-49c9083a8715@h20g2000prn.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <14b2f66c-d858-4409-af97-0cd2bd7e049e@z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Named multiples From: Lindar To: lojban Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I often use "doi pendo", "doi dirba", "doi patfu", etc with no "la" implied. Hm. Well, maybe it should be the other way, then? > I think "coi xalbo" could be "coi la xalbo" or "coi lo xalbo" > depending on context, no need to rule either out. You can always use > the gadri explicitly if confusion is possible or likely. I don't like that idea. It seems like that is precisely what Lojban is trying to avoid. Isn't Lojban supposed to be "completely regular and without exception"? Either way, I do not at all like the idea of leaving it up to context. It needs to be one or the other. Having both be {la} is more consistent, having selbri imply {le} makes more sense. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.