From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDvxYPhBBoE1Kobvg@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 22 09:21:20 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OR6Ds-0005Qd-85; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:20 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf1319205vws.16 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hGLCYQ1FfwkvC4683sTshuxlrnvaos8A1P8mm8ZHnLw=; b=W+VnC7zcDAis2K8q03AryshTPC6yyt0bjB8CO6v8LZPKWwfCWIdl/UI8Obqrc/QogA 6FWYUyXgPDFcexKweLoZVPnD+PQlBQMdgzy4Qocrr2HsdE1OaOTeX/0z4GpZRv/6aHPg 9BqQ/3rz5Aolqvk/WhMJzwbZI0P8/bOpk0jDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ffMpfkLisK/yJo1hXfbjgLFNvIO8YIkR+Bpd0tRyirMv6c37LRv1C2qK8aZnY3FYbY CEpBwf3S65LKhgde8C+SrFvj5gqv+c8T185CDs+wYi7T6SUAdmIUD0AFbtJ99/v33rCQ hswSWm4n3lVkpqJgVU0lhqv7B/GNfwkro9Ens= Received: by 10.220.124.101 with SMTP id t37mr225515vcr.42.1277223663507; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.69.146 with SMTP id z18ls1170803vci.1.p; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.202 with SMTP id ex10mr861735vcb.4.1277223662647; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.202 with SMTP id ex10mr861734vcb.4.1277223662613; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com (mail-vw0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a5si2438768vco.14.2010.06.22.09.20.28; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.52; Received: by mail-vw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 6so2468085vws.11 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:20:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.89.223 with SMTP id f31mr3293796vcm.208.1277221794913; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.73.12 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:49:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100619185857.GA27125@digitalkingdom.org> <201006201100.50695.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201006210903.34650.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "noralujv" and camxes. From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646923a62a0920489a05f7e --0016e646923a62a0920489a05f7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What does noralujv even mean? I can't find it in jbovlaste. On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Sunday 20 June 2010 11:15:01 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > >> I wonder which syllable of noralujv people stress when/if they ever > >> pronounce that word? I think I pronounce it "no,ra,LU,jv". > > > > Consonantal syllables don't count when placing stress. It's "no,RA,lujv= ", > but > > in English I'd more likely stress "no". > > > > I've always said NO,ra,lujv, myself, cognizant that it comes from > Nora (Chevalier)+lujvo. And I have no problem with a consonantal > blend in the ultimate position. > > --gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e646923a62a0920489a05f7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What does noralujv even mean? =A0I can't find it in jbovlaste.

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Michael Turnian= sky <mturnian= sky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9= :03 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.op= tus.nu> wrote:
> On Sunday 20 June 2010 11:15:01 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
>> I wonder which syllable of noralujv people stress when/if they eve= r
>> pronounce that word? I think I pronounce it "no,ra,LU,jv"= ;.
>
> Consonantal syllables don't count when placing stress. It's &q= uot;no,RA,lujv", but
> in English I'd more likely stress "no".
>

=A0I've always said NO,ra,lujv, myself, cognizant that it comes f= rom
Nora (Chevalier)+lujvo. =A0And I have no problem with a consonantal
blend in the ultimate position.

=A0 --gejyspa

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