From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCI-YPhBBoEE6y2Ew@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 22 11:10:32 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OR7vX-0006bh-JQ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:31 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf20982031gyd.16 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=DR9dmUvLRdx421ess3hCQ9p46zNlDMNofZQSCGctJns=; b=ya7Gi6dkB7Kh2c6jB1gNg3mXZmN9+vv3hRkCBsGaxsiPiBilNk0CY5G0G8qcrNuJqA c8klBNSkIJasQ0KTD1K5qSWiB7pJkIAF0gVSWXaVG7/z+8YhAxcBZ7JzP5SqEgWltgrc /C6DXksrKcZ1bc9nIOO/Zj6xloISVMLNMcnoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=CqZBZmLDmgA+mrCm0VLAdIH/0iKWvTVdc3zb7RCe4FbDDarV651OcfHYzdOmfZfuTm 1zwKXlwG3TXmeX7vnee6MzXM9SImcuan9wdPD5LVRPWv4Zz6ch1S6qxAJaWNmE1r2s/L +qgMUHV+3fLB6Us3mnK9iWu++8w/fje8zficE= Received: by 10.91.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr445710agl.2.1277230216880; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.176.18 with SMTP id bc18ls2077703ibb.3.p; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.16 with SMTP id ce16mr525005ibb.16.1277230216110; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.16 with SMTP id ce16mr525004ibb.16.1277230216091; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id fa4si9829893ibb.3.2010.06.22.11.10.15; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=q8OS1GolVHwA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=DgODRUopZ-CKiCSvA0oA:9 a=Fxu1m0cwqS_FvpCWPIKQMF9RjRUA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:55956] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 40/B1-24471-78CF02C4; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:10:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51484487E for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Chemical elements Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:10:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <95822d48-fa69-4ee8-95af-ac8b356bb185@k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201006221410.12392.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 22 June 2010 11:25:24 Warrigal wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Daniel Brockman = =20 wrote: > > I'm not following the sarcasm. =A0What are you trying to say? > > That there already is a formulaic way to talk about compounds (the > IUPAC nomenclature), and so creating an entirely new one for Lojban > would be pointless. We're not (or at least some of us aren't) creating an entirely new one. We'= re=20 figuring out how to express IUPAC nomenclature in Lojban, without simply=20 quoting the whole thing as foreign. Oh, and the third way that numbers are used is to indicate valence or=20 oxidation states, as in "iron (III) oxide". "tirse xi ci kijytau"? Pierre --=20 I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.