From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhD--oPhBBoEeC9HNA@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 22 11:14:37 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OR7zT-0007xq-Kr; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:36 -0700 Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5sf675315qwg.16 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FlBmdfAGgNjCVapMkqvjXzOuN414RLkDY63UQ+yPQGg=; b=xOBk1iiVUl0HF9wv2aSKqbAu/rH6l21RZ/7LSlxx5RwqfM07zQWBMpRfArTr4D3pUZ 6l2Wgy/gAGF5p0ezP37aJGx9nEBTyYyr3d6i+GlrL3m2hTxQE5CoqP5mkjKmZDfoUU7L fXGpsuPrOO/D7xx1za7si4Vz1aqTx+cBfwyDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VJb+Z/UxHjmw1vNY581nygkZRhMGKGzspgFj56RLNpccvO3uvN5m7Smv8Nuuc75f9P 1z+dWHhr+GadPuyluxLb3+7qam3jyNcNxFdttJBRg/VDWDRTuENdkueKWwgypdCHWg7n MVGx354KV4IEHApO+P7veYB+73rlGdLUfffHI= Received: by 10.229.130.95 with SMTP id r31mr12637qcs.46.1277230462210; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.179.165 with SMTP id bq37ls3081031qcb.3.p; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.227.5 with SMTP id iy5mr329709qcb.0.1277230460588; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.227.5 with SMTP id iy5mr329708qcb.0.1277230460558; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f193.google.com (mail-qy0-f193.google.com [209.85.216.193]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f1si7538640qcs.15.2010.06.22.11.14.19; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.193; Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so549870qyk.4 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:14:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.59.223 with SMTP id m31mr4401246qah.63.1277225032375; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.190.201 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:43:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100619185857.GA27125@digitalkingdom.org> <201006201100.50695.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201006210903.34650.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:43:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "noralujv" and camxes. From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Before jbovlaste, and still in existence, there were and still are) multiple word lists. There is gi'uste (the list of gismu), ma'oste (the list of cmavo), a rafsi list, and multiple lists of lujvo. The most up to date one before jvbovlaste came into existence was called noralujv, after it's compiler, lojbabs wife, Nora (la noras.). It can be found at http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/NORALUJV.tx= t And is reference on this page http://lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DWord%20Lists --gejyspa On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > What does noralujv even mean? =A0I can't find it in jbovlaste. > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote= : >> > On Sunday 20 June 2010 11:15:01 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> >> I wonder which syllable of noralujv people stress when/if they ever >> >> pronounce that word? I think I pronounce it "no,ra,LU,jv". >> > >> > Consonantal syllables don't count when placing stress. It's >> > "no,RA,lujv", but >> > in English I'd more likely stress "no". >> > >> >> =A0I've always said NO,ra,lujv, myself, cognizant that it comes from >> Nora (Chevalier)+lujvo. =A0And I have no problem with a consonantal >> blend in the ultimate position. >> >> =A0 --gejyspa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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