From lojban+bncCO2N0YfCFhDL1IThBBoEdLTlQQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 22 14:26:12 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ORAyW-00074l-8H; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:26:11 -0700 Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26sf3395493gxk.16 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:x-originating-ip:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Beobb0nPqCdyUu3KSE84ihP+d7myRpvfu8UsXqEaISY=; b=sD8l6PtReCXPwSKbT7jQP3xi1lwiLg+dAxc3J7Qa+RE46hW0MxsjE4FuAiHtJnllxU TxGrN8zC7U1e5y1PvcGV73NbFJtFUWitUyZ2mjlks0fSXZHAVRuvmqXukUuiIRcRWGCh a+qb9deqALZ/TMH2vwhpSvY/CjeOeQSut8VwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-originating-ip:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=LbS86U2+2K11mna8ieR1h0x0+vkrLbdpirkV9zNqn7XwKJV0ZEmBeBRlXFwOypQjmm TRnYq7FUWWdGcCNzcek0G+3EEJAz+4SZi9cMCVGtiabQpw6k9zK0FaBmnyCX7BaOsUh2 ldzRbFzCAtEHOYfGUYKbw7JF3ZzzbCERu8rbY= Received: by 10.91.84.20 with SMTP id m20mr463184agl.54.1277241931787; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.176.18 with SMTP id bc18ls2123783ibb.3.p; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.148.10 with SMTP id n10mr558606ibv.2.1277241930552; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.148.10 with SMTP id n10mr558605ibv.2.1277241930523; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kcout02.prserv.net (kcout02.prserv.net [12.154.55.32]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cr37si9942442ibb.4.2010.06.22.14.25.30; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 12.154.55.32 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) client-ip=12.154.55.32; Received: from [192.168.17.176] (unknown[216.239.45.19]) by prserv.net (kcout02) with SMTP id <2010062221252920200mfj0se> (Authid: usinet.kpreid); Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:25:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.239.45.19] Message-Id: <1C339382-8202-47C2-8779-53130DFFFD1B@switchb.org> From: Kevin Reid To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [lojban] "noralujv" and camxes. Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:25:28 -0700 References: <20100619185857.GA27125@digitalkingdom.org> <201006201100.50695.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201006210903.34650.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Original-Sender: kpreid@switchb.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 12.154.55.32 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) smtp.mail=kpreid@switchb.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Jun 22, 2010, at 9:43, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Before jbovlaste, and still in existence, there were and still are) > multiple word lists. There is gi'uste (the list of gismu), ma'oste > (the list of cmavo), a rafsi list, and multiple lists of lujvo. The > most up to date one before jvbovlaste came into existence was called > noralujv, after it's compiler, lojbabs wife, Nora (la noras.). It can > be found at http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/NORALUJV.txt I would like to point out that the terribly-phrased definitions in jbovlaste are *not* Nora's doing; as you can see in the file, it does not contain full-sentence definitions in the jbovlaste style. The jbovlaste definitions were derived from the place descriptions given in that file. -- Kevin Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.