From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDygonhBBoEICioIA@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 23 10:16:50 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ORTZ6-0002FM-Iy; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:49 -0700 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2sf815266gxk.16 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=K86zEvtD2aSI5Q/X1BBqL6S0iZExbuQoxWlileAAj04=; b=Yz/rc0ynXb9Q1fgXTjVGVCjgXnc9sHQE3lCj5oJfQSBO/Mp4/+XJ3zds04nkFOOVco eLJRaH8WEaoBiw4ZkG0bADwio9G86xZqYddNJrvsri5Ijbe+YdREvOvjjJ/9WR5ToNuo LI02KL4z96xyH07ZDJO/NX5L2yTrxBA+eqZio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=kpMCsMEu1dzk/PsvFP7b503Sx9zwDBUSB+jamWvLzOOWrCNgmKo+0FiO9SkpTOIDyg 1skhGoFMkCwOp/DcqsYIuepqx2nHgQNpmQs1YTbDTfC5xgETNNkTOYQWWCma2WzSsGEz /OgoriKgF6mPClboKC9git9hDvvz0HBaRSYd8= Received: by 10.91.49.16 with SMTP id b16mr544584agk.37.1277313394859; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.176.18 with SMTP id bc18ls2385076ibb.3.p; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.156.146 with SMTP id x18mr740222ibw.10.1277313393902; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.156.146 with SMTP id x18mr740221ibw.10.1277313393874; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y21si10647050ibq.2.2010.06.23.10.16.33; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=HJGB64tDiXfNBeA9z3R11jssoLv0dHjfv/jiYneYhOY= c=1 sm=0 a=q8OS1GolVHwA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=klsDhCa_eujkrFO_pasA:9 a=NAoL9IdXunWWKZyrDRMaHvVgsRwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:58492] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id A6/00-23034-171422C4; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:16:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B794043 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:16:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Chemical elements Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:16:26 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <95822d48-fa69-4ee8-95af-ac8b356bb185@k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <201006231012.24817.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201006231316.28469.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 23 June 2010 12:13:50 Ivo Doko wrote: > On 23 June 2010 16:12, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > mu'omi'e .pier. > > Please excuse my extreme off-topicness, but I had to ask: wouldn't > "pier" have a different accent, and maybe even the pronunciation, than > French "Pierre"? It could, but I vary the pronunciation of the "rr" depending on what langua= ge=20 I'm speaking, and "r" in Lojban stands for any of several rhotics, though t= he=20 way I pronounce it is usually a tap or trill. Even more off-topic: Armenian appears to distinguish not only a tap from a= =20 trill (as does Spanish between vowels), but also a double tap from both a= =20 single tap and a trill. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.