From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDA9LjgBBoEMGPcGg@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 08 05:40:56 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OLy6n-0002Nq-Oe; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:56 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf10457017gyd.16 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c9L+lW+UNEUor0MLH2LEjf51t3HLbhbqySxm88uxVN4=; b=A3cngU0PzJdIdUBHg1uLgZWgdXwGZPPbQMoUmVtcspxqGNk6c5b2R48qHMgsz0gLzx MfJw6xOp7ydaJHa1kKLpgLTeZi5rkcBt54NIBKq1mmtiX7B8YDS4ES5ik7PXmi76kBwn nWaFTwST1xA7bh0Y/8lNGGfj+NBSwWXfuWnps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EoIE+7mMeoyqKBiGj+lerP7buujh9fbic8yrncsi35joULXTCylz/RZiq/Z/o7lh3f L8nagPIMtlHPbjHitVCCYIS9ZU8+kAYrMFeJSuVc1jFat/IozExs7JD6Vu75gJiZYj6B tjNeo+p/nmGxSW4xRmTTnfOF+sQbYBBPbL9UU= Received: by 10.101.26.33 with SMTP id d33mr730552anj.39.1276000832038; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.160.35 with SMTP id m35ls3221713ano.2.p; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.144.29 with SMTP id w29mr1009547ann.58.1276000830753; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.144.29 with SMTP id w29mr1009546ann.58.1276000830693; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a2si4262478anj.3.2010.06.08.05.40.29; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.54; Received: by mail-gw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 20so1589290gwj.27 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.188.75 with SMTP id cz11mr5770757qcb.115.1276000817725; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.82.11 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:40:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:40:17 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zasni gerna cenba From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Wow, I didn't know it was so versatile. =A0What are the semantic differen= ces > between those three? > le poi blabi ku'o gerku > le gerku poi blabi > le gerku ku poi blabi Not much. There can be a difference when quantifiers are involved, but I don't know if anyone uses it consistently. > Also, what would be the meaning of it coming right after a selbri as the > page suggests? Basically: =3D me lo > ta cu gerku poi blabi > (my immediate guess is something like "that is a dog a wh= ite > one" (similar to {ta cu blabi gerku}?). =A0Though I'm not very clear what= the > difference between {poi} and {noi} would be when attached to a selbri. Consider for example: ta gerku noi danlu mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.