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Hello all.  I've begun looking into Lojban (and Loglan), and if this is the=
 appropriate place to do so, I'll be asking questions here...

If I say "le bajra" several times in an utterance, I assume that each insta=
nce is normally interpreted as having the same reference (i.e. I'm probably=
 talking about only one runner).  Is there a curt/simple way to indicate th=
at I'm talking about a new/different runner (eg. "the runner spoke to the r=
unner about the runner")?

Loglan "le", and in some places Lojban "le" is described as analogous to th=
e English definite article (i.e. "le bajra" means the particular runner tha=
t I have in mind).  Elsewhere, "le/lo" are distinguished by whether or not =
"the runner" really is a runner, or merely something that I casually choose=
 to call a runner (correct?).  Are both of these interpretations of "le" co=
rrect?  And if "lo" can only mean "that which is most definitely a...", und=
er what circumstances would I use it?  All that I can think of is "a man wa=
lks into a bar...", and other such jokes.  It looks to me like there's no r=
eal indefinite article, and that "le" is going to be used much more than "l=
o".  Not that that looks like a problem to me.  I just want to be sure that=
 I have a clear understanding of gadri.

I believe that "le mi cutci", and "le cutci pe le bajra" are legitimate, co=
rrect?  Can one also say "le cutci pe mi"?  Can one say "le mi pe bajra"??

Attitude indicators seem to follow rather than precede the words that they =
modify.  Why do they differ in this way from other Lojban words?

Thanks for your time and attention.

-jamie


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