From lojban+bncCKfmmZXpCBDa4t3gBBoELyzyBA@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 15 05:26:34 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OOVDb-0005tu-4y; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:34 -0700 Received: by gwaa12 with SMTP id a12sf8425752gwa.16 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ozvxmUITEqr+/Oq58+NgFPpWrpyBIKOLCpUi6xqNrcU=; b=yS78Y3dt4WSSMghBPuC5Jsf8PK76ACoVbLGLdd5bMMxA+FVbqZnfHbmQNPHx5hfSw1 fpr6AVd/xT1CaZbNdb4onvzz0WpkT6xKAfWrw+aMcr8K/iX39kKkxzfJ0OrDbSz4y9Hn oSVTM0zeB9z/n+VICgaLkMR2Ojp6/9hBRJiSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=4DSTAXzV/7yL1B/L7ouRu2SIyZTxsLWu0uSd/Z6sxPq65wQAf2N4ryIpc39M8BvB64 uwxav7Xhw4PDBtBtTO5AV60CfrGffhqE9dx1Cj5pYMdT8GBKYiqUI2c1McDSf5FY//Mt YfH0hox7+KSnOiCUXVw3YrE5WH2pF1GWV2hBE= Received: by 10.101.26.33 with SMTP id d33mr472345anj.39.1276604762719; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.145.32 with SMTP id x32ls4933317ann.0.p; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.166.10 with SMTP id t10mr483377ano.53.1276604761258; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 89.232.124.106 References: <95822d48-fa69-4ee8-95af-ac8b356bb185@k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <2129d979-ca98-4eec-a3cf-9e017ebbf099@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Chemical elements From: lojdjis To: lojban Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "xukmi'fu'e" is mys misprint. I meant "xukmifu'e". The problem is that all elements are in one periodic system. It's strange to name one element as dircyjinme (connection with radiation ?) and palladium (Pd/46) =3D jinmrpaladi (no connection with radiation ?) But many stable elements (nonradioactive) have radioactive isotopes. Secondly, it's hard to remember all those words (some elements are gismu, some are fu'ivla). It will be easier for chemists to pronounce them as they write formulae. Jorge Llamb=EDas, I see one more problem ;-). There should be some standard names for isotopes. I have no solution to all these points. As the case stands it seems to me just some lack of logic. On Jun 13, 7:49=A0pm, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > > It does make sense to use the ISO-codes fu'ivla pattern for "x1 is > chemical element with symbol XX". I see only one problem: the pattern > doesn't work for iodine, oxygen and uranium, because "xukmi'i", > "xukmi'o" and "xukmi'u" are lujvo, not fu'ivla. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.