From lojban+bncCKfmmZXpCBDBwuPgBBoE26J_LQ@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 16 07:36:15 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OOtie-00044H-Eq; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:36:14 -0700 Received: by gwaa12 with SMTP id a12sf10625843gwa.16 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:35:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aFEtlybn+QsMykb0fAg50HhNCUv9i721D7Q0/1Gt59Q=; b=V353WUN68Arw8QAFmbNzuX96Dy9JwSuD9r95WWM0XLulOc4JB3Rqomj4rsYiCP1byt AzDBJyVuRRVqYNHzJwbTBEzihQTLmHHDb2bIubSTyp8hAnQofdmZrWTxr5G3cfAovZUR DilMkcE4sFSdUqG66jXpix6aOes67859lMfI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YQH9RoMOSdxSgAUYBmIH2SBWQDCUcPVyDOJAEiv0QwzfzAGh6B3nZYx7DRr3uS+PmO IudsF9BDfCA5wFqvCdebCS6jyBd6OcMlho8xJ0czGDtFycJeSLvfQM69df0ccjrVy51P KKxKAGv/TqO1tyKMSXzkrdqHqLRECWKbhlSEA= Received: by 10.150.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr604954ybe.33.1276698945785; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:35:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.234.22 with SMTP id g22ls255171ybh.7.p; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:35:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.63.17 with SMTP id q17mr452945ybk.7.1276698945050; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:35:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 89.232.124.106 References: <95822d48-fa69-4ee8-95af-ac8b356bb185@k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <2129d979-ca98-4eec-a3cf-9e017ebbf099@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <201006150911.32832.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Chemical elements From: lojdjis To: lojban X-Original-Sender: petxd086@googlemail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AFAIK "xi" means subscript. So maybe then we can say xukmixexipa is Protium (Hydrogen-1) xukmixexire is Deuterium (Hydrogen-2) xukmixexici is Tritium (Hydrogen-3) On Jun 16, 4:55=A0pm, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:49 AM, lojdjis wrote: > > We can use: > > xukmixepa is Hydrogen-1 > > xukmixere is Deuterium (Hydrogen-2) > > xukmixeci is Tritium (Hydrogen-3) > > > And we need something that will indicate hydrogen in general as we > > can't say "xukmixe" as noted earlier. > > "xukmixe" is fine. The problem is only with I, O, and U. (And A and E, > if they existed.) One way to solve it could be to add a nonsense > syllable, although that's not terribly elegant, say: xukmi'ine, > xukmi'oksi, xukmi'ura. > > There is a minor potential problem with the isotopes idea, because > "mu" could represent either "m" or "5", so "xukmicumu" is Curium (Cm), > but with the isotope convention in place someone might think it's > Carbon-5. I don't think this causes any actual ambiguity, but then you > won't be able to just read the symbol from the fu'ivla without knowing > something about the elements. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.