From lojban+bncCPieuJrRARCSh-bgBBoEwGD20Q@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 16 19:08:36 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OP4Wt-0008Sp-5Y; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:35 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf11946886gyd.16 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ux5tS2Ow1I5+R5+GNO/tIYEFZWHFe397efyZD7OVKXM=; b=BaOo3xj65IRkjRxBH8/s9ZzJqgkyPf6Up1IDXAFYBVigPPnNn9bNAhU45Kg05u1qAX mZqy4fCCQFqIyXs+9Juvt056HI8tReHYYLNxvYNFBAwV56GS7iDAjaO+6Xa+A1yhG1HG NjZN7JmT2d5LLD9vMzFd7gu89gnejUDwp4kjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t5sLCWlFkOwbQIQFTUZoFhRYmHGv4ymvRBPd6nXU6sdOeh46prGEWCL3Q7bNqdYz6R LDo8AWh3dJPAtKGdxhzg6RiIQ9vFMUJIujJHkBb8l0lHi4kcJ5xiehv8c3AtuFfo4lDu dWsDA6mKyjqTIIw5nw4lNBOtiqfp/QML1Uun0= Received: by 10.91.59.11 with SMTP id m11mr812344agk.34.1276740498744; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.66.23 with SMTP id t23ls66297agk.6.p; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.10.20 with SMTP id 20mr5462701agj.0.1276740497788; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.10.20 with SMTP id 20mr5462700agj.0.1276740497724; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f49.google.com (mail-gw0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si395375ywh.3.2010.06.16.19.08.16; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of purpleposeidon@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.49; Received: by gwb19 with SMTP id 19so1697207gwb.8 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.128.30 with SMTP id f30mr7789513ann.100.1276740495570; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.91.10 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201006161600.44280.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <95822d48-fa69-4ee8-95af-ac8b356bb185@k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <201006161600.44280.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:08:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Chemical elements From: purpleposeidon To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: purpleposeidon@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of purpleposeidon@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=purpleposeidon@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I don't think we need names for isotopes, but we do need a way of designa= ting them. How about a gismu? The official is ratni: x1 is an atom of element/atomic number x2 of isotope number/atomic weight x3. I guess x3 is overloaded? What I was thinking of before looking it up is "x1 is an atom/element with x2 protons, x3 neutrons (defaulting to most stable isotope), and x4 electrons (defaulting to x2)" > I've never heard of asdfylate, and Google hasn't either. I made it up. I haven't figured out what the real name is. la'o .url. http://jbotcan.org/jbo/res/1327.html .url zdile je simsa mu'omi'e djeims On 6/16/10, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 16 June 2010 12:42:54 Gabriel Koulikov wrote: >> Maybe "pi'e" could be used to separate the isotope number? If it's >> not already used with chemical compounds, that should minimize >> potential ambiguity. > > Not sure what you mean. "nikle pi'e mubi" isn't grammatical. Specifying a= n > isotope in a chemical compound formula is rare; it's done with water and > uranium hexafluoride, and I've seen it on Lysol or some such, but that's > about it. > >> Especially if people think of expanding into biochem. :-) Any Lojban >> names for omega-3 fatty acids yet? (or the citric acid cycle, myelin, >> myofibrils, microtubules, etc.?) > > There's a picture of some molecular models on Wikipedia > called "Rasyslami.jpg", and the Lojban version may still be on nuzban. (T= he > source was a program that produced POV-Ray output. I've lost it.) From > memory: slamlraxidoni, slamlraxidi, kobyslami (?). > > For citric acid, I'd say nimryslami. The others I don't know. > > Pierre > -- > La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. > Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.