From lojban+bncCMqlifSxDBD4_IPiBBoEM_Qg5w@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 16 17:51:26 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZvcg-0006C1-89; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:25 -0700 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26sf300656pzk.16 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=OLiMGvxsvn6gALgj+EFO0P9Wwgrh7IfYyqyUmsiB460=; b=xMMcnc1PMImijiEWqr4Jg0ipveXb9RC8KcUPs5XWF/M3CcWoh89wUumqd7A7ng/ofv Y8OTRoA4a0FEBfJh4/1wgwRxlhCj/z7XZlAP7ZR//iGdpvG2A7MpqpSY8JvR22sR7J/4 S/VikvJB6Fxf7px26ZEYltabtjcPOWqKumCNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=ZvKc6yEng16EtjEd1eW+BCUgzwIys8Eu4CtmhSz+kUSGNGbc9rKBZGlZ8elAWbXsGD o5xuLKsre5QhPPdLOfLU2M5oSw42YZIaZ9kHfUWOPD9ZU2vdmU6pQzRbRrznjwzq5f43 8PTAFeV/Jcj9MU4TLDDGlyYmmCWYb6VRbgFqU= Received: by 10.115.39.8 with SMTP id r8mr157727waj.4.1279327864457; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.85.40 with SMTP id n40ls6922169wal.0.p; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.26.16 with SMTP id 16mr409313waz.10.1279327863659; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.26.16 with SMTP id 16mr409312waz.10.1279327863637; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d12si1924872wam.3.2010.07.16.17.51.02; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of raposa.msscripting@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.176; Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so1424280pxi.21 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.136.1 with SMTP id j1mr2403884wfd.325.1279327862474; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d75-159-185-13.abhsia.telus.net [75.159.185.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c16sm13841513rvn.1.2010.07.16.17.51.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:52:08 -0600 From: Brian Robertson To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show Message-ID: <20100717005208.GA4945@myhost> References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <20100715014409.GA12969@myhost> <201007161843.14617.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201007161843.14617.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: raposa.msscripting@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of raposa.msscripting@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=raposa.msscripting@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 06:43:13PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 21:44:09 Brian Robertson wrote: > > To recount our IRC discussion and mostly my feelings and thoughts about the > > layout of the two cylinders. > > > > Each cylinder is 32Km long and 8Km in diametre. Now, it seems a bit silly > > to have this much space being used to segregate districts so we thought > > each strip being it's own town made some sense (Only throwing out ideas; > > With the small width it might make more sense to have the entire cylinder > > be a larger version of this town, but we got the dimensions wrong to start > > with.). This gives us three land strips in each cylinder (for 6 in total) > > with a length of 32Km and a width of about 4Km ((pi*8)/6). If we split each > > strip into eight parts we get eight roughly square sections of land at > > 4Km^2. The current suggestion is to make the center two sections a > > "downtown", the sections directly on either side of downtown being > > commercial/residential areas, and the two sections at the far end of each > > end being suburbs (see crappy diagram). > > > > |--------------------------------------------32Km-------------------------- > > |-------------------| > > | --suburb--|--suburb--|--com/res--|--downtown--|--downtown--|--com/res--|- > > |-suburb--|--suburb--| ]- ~4Km > > I'm thinking of roads connecting the three land strips, one at the equator > (between the two downtown squares) and the other two in the suburbs. The > roads are traveled mostly by bicycle, being the most efficient means of > locomotion. > > One end of the cylinder is north and the other is south. Are the cylinders > connected north-to-north or south-to-south? How do you go from one cylinder > to the other? > > The outer ring is used for agriculture. Anyone have ideas about that? What > about fish? I haven't seen anything resembling an ocean. > > Pierre We had the exact same idea about the roads connecting the three land strips, and about bicycles. I suppose if several independant parties though about it, it's probably a half-decent Idea. As for the connection of the cylinders, we need to pull from a long debate we had on IRC. I'll only paraphrase the arguments conclutions. The cylinders are connected neither north-to-north or south-to-south, they are side by side and connected by a strip running across the caps of the cylinders. The arrangment of the cylinders is such to provide the ability to make ajustments in the objective possitioning of the station. The cylinders are counter rotating for the ability to use the rotation speed to balence the entire craft to a certain object (probably a sun). src: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=2b799b35bc470b42e8f44237ecfe3c94 It was decided that East would be spinward, and West would be anti-spinward. North and South would be defined acording to the standard compase-rose. Cheers, lorx. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.