From lojban+bncCMqlifSxDBDSiYXiBBoEMCNKZw@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 16 22:51:36 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa0JA-00055W-GL; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:35 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf439474pxi.16 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=g7vY6Vnk0KHN5/UZ7XR7vKEU6Qe0xUkNTqEo9xGPFzc=; b=M864v4qizMk7BsO6RXXPd1udmvsvQgG4K0i0kEuzZXwWz9DE5UE5VITb6H+hrkolRt 8F1T7m/qyu63ABa9vo9C2wjb//QcD056FUn1nreyL5PM9bvJicAMoSzpMpx5cOs1qxFe Dev5Us/M5K5WieF/Rn0bZ5TVn6UMRa85tzM40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=NsAfOcPUDwyy51G6TCFb/S5DmEO3ZLwKYBV8E5vDFJJv+DVLeroMJ/XRZIT8nbIiLj PnAELF3XP8YZiwYVhUOHLA9uRCeEwnoGC3zxU5riW3XSffwc9vhiW4pIyyVn+Brj+Yt0 8Ka5LfZO/lIEKMaLdQ/HGHqtzTFmMdMKTctpQ= Received: by 10.115.67.11 with SMTP id u11mr162019wak.23.1279345874446; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.117.31 with SMTP id u31ls7061304wam.3.p; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr476067wae.0.1279345871798; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr476066wae.0.1279345871763; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f173.google.com (mail-pv0-f173.google.com [74.125.83.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r28si2145223wak.6.2010.07.16.22.51.10; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of raposa.msscripting@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.173; Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so1073073pvg.32 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.229.13 with SMTP id b13mr867908wfh.166.1279345870258; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d75-159-185-13.abhsia.telus.net [75.159.185.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c16sm14122158rvn.13.2010.07.16.22.51.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:52:22 -0600 From: Brian Robertson To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show Message-ID: <20100717055222.GC4945@myhost> References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <20100715014409.GA12969@myhost> <201007161843.14617.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20100717005943.GB4945@myhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: raposa.msscripting@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of raposa.msscripting@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=raposa.msscripting@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:11:17PM -0700, Lindar wrote: > The second one is going to be an agricultural system used for > controlled raising of crops and livestock. They both must have three > strips of glass to provide natural sunlight for the inhabitants. > > (32*4)*3 is enough space for an entire town. (~384sq.km.) > We'll be fine. Also, lorx is correct, they're connected N-S side by > side, and they counter rotate to provide limited maneuverability > without expulsion of mass. The living tube will be rotating clockwise > from the perspective of the sun, placing the actual sun at a northern > direction. As for the perceived sun from reflectors (if there is any), > I do not know. The agricultural tube will spin anticlockwise, causing > the sun to be south. > > Can anybody figure the maximum population for 384sq km and then take > it down a few notches considering population density of each sector? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en Mumbai has an population density is estimated to be about 22,000 persons per square kilometre. Calgary has a population density of about 1,400 persons per square kilometre. New York has about 10,000 per square kilometre. I think the real question is what kind of city do we want it to be, and how close together are the houses going to be. For my current view on this city, I'd probably vote for around 5,000 per square kilometre; maybe a little lower even. Just my re fepni. Cheers, lorx. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.