From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC3loXiBBoEZEl9WQ@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 16 23:18:53 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa0jZ-0005TS-2W; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:53 -0700 Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3sf399452pvg.16 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=E0W1PcWwG5KUkya4HwPm//E1n9qcdog2vx4rwoMYjQI=; b=Wy1opPoEl2vSHfnMZHKxVg7w8Oe4J/k/9bHWBhFVwEQXwp19oCb1ZhC1bmuAKFWBO3 SxDyXsoPoFXJmsYwOV6g6gs0MptbYbWUIjyY7OmBSqsY4xohEaky7THEftTDSnHPDqtO vFY85PHHFlzG8yph2ERRk4myZzCk7OVo0RrmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=au9gYM1d8y6PqtdCYvhLD3wtf/OFeiLiwG9yFnpuFrK8u+nzE6a5qdwR1csG+ItxxC urpXbb/DUWw/iFcamhOPGze7NDz/5sCrCaF2YmfyQL7Brba/DuvzC2APGR9ebXE5EWZ/ XY2m6Wqj/NIWegka5+BoGsM4JHZLYlSOYe/7o= Received: by 10.114.55.19 with SMTP id d19mr50841waa.27.1279347511246; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.114.204.17 with SMTP id b17ls7076693wag.1.p; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.14.17 with SMTP id 17mr479642wan.17.1279347509627; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.14.17 with SMTP id 17mr479641wan.17.1279347509560; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com (mail-pw0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d12si2164949wam.7.2010.07.16.23.18.28; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.45; Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2so2248680pwi.18 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.233.10 with SMTP id f10mr2872240wfh.215.1279347507802; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.144.17 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100717055222.GC4945@myhost> References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <20100715014409.GA12969@myhost> <201007161843.14617.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20100717005943.GB4945@myhost> <20100717055222.GC4945@myhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:18:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e054bf3520048b8f4d82 --000e0cd2e054bf3520048b8f4d82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The city I live in, Boise, ID, is the largest city in Idaho, the 3rd larges= t city in the Pacific Northwest, and the 100th largest in the U.S. (by population). As of the 2000 Census, the pop. density of Boise was 1,124.7/km=B2, with a total population of 185,787 people, 74,438 households= , and 46,523 families residing in the city. Boise covers roughly 166 km=B2. = =B9 In my own personal opinion, Boise is only BARELY large enough to even be CALLED a city, and it's still small enough to have some of that towny appeal. So, as far as population density goes, I vote for something around the 1k Boise has. =B9: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boise,_Idaho On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Brian Robertson < raposa.msscripting@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:11:17PM -0700, Lindar wrote: > > The second one is going to be an agricultural system used for > > controlled raising of crops and livestock. They both must have three > > strips of glass to provide natural sunlight for the inhabitants. > > > > (32*4)*3 is enough space for an entire town. (~384sq.km.) > > We'll be fine. Also, lorx is correct, they're connected N-S side by > > side, and they counter rotate to provide limited maneuverability > > without expulsion of mass. The living tube will be rotating clockwise > > from the perspective of the sun, placing the actual sun at a northern > > direction. As for the perceived sun from reflectors (if there is any), > > I do not know. The agricultural tube will spin anticlockwise, causing > > the sun to be south. > > > > Can anybody figure the maximum population for 384sq km and then take > > it down a few notches considering population density of each sector? > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den > > Mumbai has an population density is estimated to be about 22,000 persons > per square kilometre. Calgary has a population density of about 1,400 > persons per square kilometre. New York has about 10,000 per square > kilometre. > > I think the real question is what kind of city do we want it to be, and > how close together are the houses going to be. > For my current view on this city, I'd probably vote for around 5,000 per > square kilometre; maybe a little lower even. > > Just my re fepni. > > Cheers, lorx. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --000e0cd2e054bf3520048b8f4d82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The city I live in, Boise, ID, is the largest city in Idaho, the 3rd larges= t city in the Pacific Northwest, and the 100th largest in the U.S. (by popu= lation). As of the 2000 Census, the pop. density of Boise was 1,124.7/km=B2= , with a total population of 185,787 people, 74,438 households, and 46,523 = families residing in the=20 city. Boise covers roughly 166=A0km=B2. =B9

In my own personal opini= on, Boise is only BARELY large enough to even be CALLED a city, and it'= s still small enough to have some of that towny appeal. So, as far as popul= ation density goes, I vote for something around the 1k Boise has.

=B9: http://en.wi= kipedia.org/wiki/Boise,_Idaho

On Fri,= Jul 16, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Brian Robertson <raposa.msscripting@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
<= div class=3D"h5">On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:11:17PM -0700, Lindar wrote: > The second one is going to be an agricultural system used for
> controlled raising of crops and livestock. They both must have three > strips of glass to provide natural sunlight for the inhabitants.
>
> (32*4)*3 is enough space for an entire town. (~384sq.km.)
> We'll be fine. Also, lorx is correct, they're connected N-S si= de by
> side, and they counter rotate to provide limited maneuverability
> without expulsion of mass. The living tube will be rotating clockwise<= br> > from the perspective of the sun, placing the actual sun at a northern<= br> > direction. As for the perceived sun from reflectors (if there is any),=
> I do not know. The agricultural tube will spin anticlockwise, causing<= br> > the sun to be south.
>
> Can anybody figure the maximum population for 384sq km and then take > it down a few notches considering population density of each sector? >
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Mumbai has an population density is estimated to be about 22,00= 0 persons
per square kilometre. Calgary has a population density of =A0about 1,400 persons per square kilometre. New York has about 10,000 per square
kilometre.

I think the real question is what kind of city do we want it to be, and
how close together are the houses going to be.
For my current view on this city, I'd probably vote for around 5,000 pe= r
square kilometre; maybe a little lower even.

Just my re fepni.

Cheers, lorx.

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