From lojban+bncCKi12tLPFBD6toXiBBoEX8rtbQ@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 17 00:28:17 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa1oj-0005RE-EA; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:28:17 -0700 Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22sf346079wyf.16 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:28:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+/wKDonujQqbsos8ZSHG4i0UmAeBeL/IKK/pxq+wKNs=; b=TAyq62rsSSIFdP+d1fSk8WmDbQiKXvutwTeYv5FwdKgeh8jk4U6xYzI4s1prVIhkk4 QjXBHikDvXiOMB5VimVq/1axsWcxUVU731tWyYvg5bnH6iri8+huMbGSpARYAQji79Zd SWM2WRrhxhDbL6gAMw6rVmzXolo8zMUAw/CmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=l1urOA4dBRo6d1ooEnx3bdBrJZ6GIYplvO7XYFZbP2i5SaSdkk3bdcvPUa/tt/kP/G EQ9DgI8VcujCjImdi8m4AKXiQRGXRuliZmZN2Ty0+Gcco1Fom7/0wqG7yK2kC363TWGd Re/ZHOHILMH1a5n7HLECfrpnZGKiq4RwSS9Vg= Received: by 10.216.144.67 with SMTP id m45mr219382wej.17.1279351674627; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:27:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.68.149 with SMTP id l21ls1936640wed.3.p; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.231.102 with SMTP id k80mr120065weq.1.1279351672621; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.231.102 with SMTP id k80mr120064weq.1.1279351672563; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x37si614417weq.8.2010.07.17.00.27.52; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.10; Received: from [192.168.1.100] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M4kN3-1Oz68h3cUP-00yvmg; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:27:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <20100715014409.GA12969@myhost> <201007161843.14617.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20100717005943.GB4945@myhost> From: CosmicRay X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:28:06 +0100 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:2VZ9ybKv9jEx1k/C1vghZJhyiY8uG9OFOhx1nmn2YBV 2ve/3/AoxModPBFlDn+laGAZOctCh8J7meMxcl45L72gFRmiaC Xku9+s44z8HTK4mdaIKK4yA12x+RhBMxkNv1NbBNgV5vleIcOG OMxc08PHO/GWoJHf1tSVi9dSzvQqhAyuc/QBwxdOIYzt97AlDn 72BJslotlHNjtZcreBfB3/JjFwOtJlG9pjXjjHTOoM= X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-396777662 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-1-396777662 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Luke, After discussion on IRC it was deemed that having Lojgugde in space was= a much cooler idea, and solved some problems of an Earth-bound show. The = pilot episode plot outline's been rewritten (see https://docs.google.com/do= cument/edit?id=3D1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y&hl=3Den_GB fo= r current version, it's a much quicker read than you might expect). I've g= ot as far as getting the characters into space but where and what they're h= eading to is still being decided. FWIW the show is probably going to lean = more on sci than pure fi. kozmikreis On 17 Jul 2010, at 06:43, Luke Bergen wrote: > What is all this talk of cylinders and spinning tubes? I thought jbogu'e= was an island or something. >=20 > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Lindar wrote: > The second one is going to be an agricultural system used for > controlled raising of crops and livestock. They both must have three > strips of glass to provide natural sunlight for the inhabitants. >=20 > (32*4)*3 is enough space for an entire town. (~384sq.km.) > We'll be fine. Also, lorx is correct, they're connected N-S side by > side, and they counter rotate to provide limited maneuverability > without expulsion of mass. The living tube will be rotating clockwise > from the perspective of the sun, placing the actual sun at a northern > direction. As for the perceived sun from reflectors (if there is any), > I do not know. The agricultural tube will spin anticlockwise, causing > the sun to be south. >=20 > Can anybody figure the maximum population for 384sq km and then take > it down a few notches considering population density of each sector? >=20 > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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Hi Luke,

&nbs= p;   After discussion on IRC it was deemed that having Lojgugde i= n space was a much cooler idea, and solved some problems of an Earth-bound = show.  The pilot episode plot outline's been rewritten (see https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=3D1F= iggelppx0xep5HC7GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y&hl=3Den_GB for current v= ersion, it's a much quicker read than you might expect).  I've got as = far as getting the characters into space but where and what they're heading= to is still being decided.  FWIW the show is probably going to lean m= ore on sci than pure fi.

kozmikreis

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On 17 Jul 2010, at 06:43, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

=
What is all this talk of cy= linders and spinning tubes?  I thought jbogu'e was an island or someth= ing.

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Lin= dar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
The second one is going to be an agricultur= al system used for
controlled raising of crops and livestock. They both must have three
strips of glass to provide natural sunlight for the inhabitants.

(32*4)*3 is enough space for an entire town. (~384sq.km.)
We'll be fine. Also, lorx is correct, they're connected N-S side by
side, and they counter rotate to provide limited maneuverability
without expulsion of mass. The living tube will be rotating clockwise
from the perspective of the sun, placing the actual sun at a northern
direction. As for the perceived sun from reflectors (if there is any),
I do not know. The agricultural tube will spin anticlockwise, causing
the sun to be south.

Can anybody figure the maximum population for 384sq km and then take
it down a few notches considering population density of each sector?

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