From lojban+bncCKi12tLPFBCj7I_iBBoEv1dHVA@googlegroups.com Sun Jul 18 23:52:38 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OakDK-0006Au-6F; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:38 -0700 Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22sf995526wyf.16 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=54Uinyw4nk7Q9N2kHoBqWiYhq8L36SBZ6AwfEV9vHeI=; b=zVOo2kQDJo23og3OvN0nhwhiRfIlFVDGaAvbyT2DbFVuDmstPtcG+8F8enuVXZKMIM QESdPHGtXw4F/fpeN/oj0yjQGZejw6iaYVStFZ7YnmtMZye685iy7y5hCeuLjGFH+0Ry wYFlrXqfLM4pIUubpI3eeI1MTspeaILy6+smk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=TJ4rkSc8pcKBNMj6h+aw2CbFPfYpWG4T9Sf2AQCeLWCvAwK4t8vSV0K9nQm0FJkapI hhGYe9DwtFtGKz+k4OwbvGVEi0HkjIf36uLRVHiBfSyQLk4MnYUXRDwSxqDSAEgp8R2f XvMup8UW43BlsOqDOAzKzfjUGJv+XlrsYSoRI= Received: by 10.216.144.196 with SMTP id n46mr432636wej.6.1279522339205; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.129.3 with SMTP id m3ls151204wbs.2.p; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.134.80 with SMTP id i16mr251175wbt.7.1279522336725; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.134.80 with SMTP id i16mr251174wbt.7.1279522336692; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si2989592wbs.1.2010.07.18.23.52.16; Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.8; Received: from [192.168.1.100] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFi3J-1OoiJG2Z2z-00EMh1; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:52:16 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <0ea116b6-80d3-498e-a6c8-80377826906f@z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <201007190010.57987.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: CosmicRay X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: <201007190010.57987.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-Id: <0E26D9D7-6606-4971-80C1-67071C9FEEBC@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:52:32 +0100 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:6nDP+hlziU0coGPwSH9lypDISI+SrbwQozL0mbuA4Xv 5llmA4TKMCviP4c3G9z1ok/4fFFzh9xpRt+XXMAwnUCzRdVB7g yCRaNpx1nNhOBmQqs4yiaizUr5hqml0ZfbEZLrNntn+NfWnXTo sD6WWEU8DKILYFjX2pVcA3Y/n7CuYL4XivI6YQIRZ3+jTfFpCi WwA+oA7u0j0IJHqPn9raWXsc9ynDUyHMztYvWVGPeg= X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 19 Jul 2010, at 05:10, Pierre Abbat wrote: > It should be easy to wire the whole town for Internet. Communicating with > Earth, though, presents a problem. The station is 150 Gm from Earth (it's at > the Sun-Earth L4 or L5 point, right?), so it takes 500 seconds to send a > message to Earth, and 500 seconds for the reply to come back. This means just > sending an email (assuming the server doesn't send any command until it has > received the reply to the previous one) takes 108 minutes! (not counting > tearing down the connection) If you're in the space station, browsing a site > on the Earth, and your browser keeps the connection open, you click a link, > and almost 17 minutes later the page comes up. There are at least three Earth > stations for communicating with the space station. I still say L1 is more attractive for at least the first station at only 1.5 million km from Earth. The lag would be *much* less, but nobody'll be playing OnLive anytime soon. Local caching for fairly static resources like Wikipedia would be easy to implement (and encourage more jbo. contributors). > With only 32 km, it would be difficult in the ag tube to grow both bananas and > apples. If there's more than one ag tube (as there may be more than one town > tube), that solves that problem. Will there also be lakes for growing fish > and seaweed? Open bodies of water should feature imo, as reservoirs, leisure destinations, sports facilities, and food farming (not necessarily all at the same time). kozmikreis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.