From lojban+bncCKi12tLPFBCsupDiBBoEy5apyw@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 19 02:39:12 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OamoV-0001NA-Vg; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:39:12 -0700 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17sf5471wwb.16 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Xnsw9ZT82dh2j7htfkhgUs6OIwIOinBbyiliU1QIpX0=; b=JbrHKreReS1E3RnQW4BfRq1LzoncmZdt8rCqEUcsZKiCuYHbAM1Bn2SPpqLuG08FJ3 HVoSLeqIqi9fVzcBFpuInCgVDoBltlVyN4la0b5YGplf9Wp9fBMC2U8IGNcrJF6G8x6L yRFTprBNHdLJtSsBg5O3qDBkcSnW83oKfY0tc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=pZbuEo4jDf/1yeIALr91ovitbSJ7OGGx6Qm8H1ZeTRMKQc2sEAL2t1yuUrh/Z0heUW /9VJP5AuRgIlFxn7IqRybKE2XyPzl+z46PnDkeBBqJNHMaMreyhMfEvIBUYw8IxoNSi5 1tdgrhoWlAOd9Odh5YRTyLJXYwJUV8VKAMxC0= Received: by 10.216.144.25 with SMTP id m25mr432953wej.24.1279532332881; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:38:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.60.209 with SMTP id u59ls280967wec.0.p; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.19.143 with SMTP id n15mr283299wen.5.1279532330348; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.19.143 with SMTP id n15mr283298wen.5.1279532330327; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v4si1141125weq.1.2010.07.19.02.38.50; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.8; Received: from [10.16.133.253] ([82.132.139.67]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M03PY-1OtgAf1EAm-00uFYG; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:38:49 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show - internet stuff References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <0ea116b6-80d3-498e-a6c8-80377826906f@z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <201007190010.57987.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4C440884.5080805@perpetuum-immobile.de> <400dfd08-0c4b-435b-8fbd-533e4ec73b51@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> From: CosmicRay X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: <400dfd08-0c4b-435b-8fbd-533e4ec73b51@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Message-Id: <9BA17869-14E1-4D59-B9F3-89D9D09DD66D@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:38:52 +0100 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:DMtOS2SDkPu/KRSy/wQeW+GUxA/Y1BxMzufNGWG69MK V893Q4yBwDJAG2n9BXencrNx8dAqYwS+SOOssD8QzH++7Qx/Jc pc8goDvWNpi2tNBV3adty27WB7ROVMwFbm48YJW3acGTaln4wy QcQ0iF53+jl4dJiKQJey27YMGhaj4bP/ww0LRirGnq02NN/THh dUnDP8j+ORUeBKBE5uD5pXWlngIZSMvt2uXC3EHIME= X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 L4 and L5 are about 1AU away (approx. 8 light minutes). Throw in a TCP-like protocol and comms become slooow. Bringing the station a lot closer, as in to L1, and using a prefetching web protocol like Timo suggests over something akin to UDP would be the best solution imo. kozmikreis On 19 Jul 2010, at 09:37, Lindar wrote: > Wait, how is the speed of light nearly 300megametres/second and yet it > would take 18 minutes to open a new link? I don't follow the physics > behind this. Distance / speed of light = less than 1/100 of a second. > What am I missing here? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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