From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCA0ZTiBBoEUhE_bw@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 19 21:39:49 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ob4cL-0003rk-9O; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:49 -0700 Received: by yxj4 with SMTP id 4sf9719361yxj.16 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=3wa4iyP3a65+C9LVTohwrbRVTN+YxKgoU4AZIpHNvrQ=; b=SHxQ+UxtKcAR/yFbtiE5TLfcu8G02UiN9vUNMBsqPeWQ11tCzn0hwhrAAxwIeAYuzj QqaGqY9XwpEYLGEzIKpiHoWI04CwB9dB85Usa46+dwBnil3JKshSSn+NHCpls5vOXQZQ pTMKyNvpJvvOatdwbXdyZsLWRonyPJNW5GznY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=nh9DycIhF3PZ8u7I9u3OpwSYg7jhL2fnLNAwMjYG/0XwTOp1yYc0bGYT6lPyXIcY/T jYDRZkm5tOu0FL0J3fzBLSlcUnAqbGB+OI6XtaO8SBEMiogC4GiOkk+L0PUdRUQmjqTD ZWZu7HRcOmwt28qwywGGLVJK8n5VCiVjkn3xg= Received: by 10.90.114.12 with SMTP id m12mr1150388agc.32.1279600768242; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.149.4 with SMTP id r4ls3604772ibv.2.p; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.81 with SMTP id q17mr1084925ibx.12.1279600767314; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.81 with SMTP id q17mr1084924ibx.12.1279600767276; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e25si4420645ibk.7.2010.07.19.21.39.26; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=yoWPwLFxrrRT6x3Ewqsfqptf/qfy3YLz+GdVswRYE64= c=1 sm=0 a=f3wYcKxqQrgA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=_pmeEAyD7rXEdlno2EEA:9 a=0IC6kjnOhDBtDEYaxyQA:7 a=XGeFClB8vKyt8Y4es_iKWYa58FUA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:44440] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id D1/55-07625-E78254C4; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:39:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7AF62AF for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:32:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show - education Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:32:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <3c4ace6b-a18e-4306-a2b1-8cef523e20f3@u36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <17f7fec8-acb3-4215-af99-9e5438029736@l25g2000prn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201007200032.25068.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 19 July 2010 00:46:43 Lindar wrote: > I forgot to add my opinion regarding a foreign language. > I don't think a foreign language class is necessary, it should just be > one of those social obligations. Just like one must wear clothing and > bathe regularly, one should learn at least one other language. I think > that a second language would come from second-term education > (interests and vocational education). So it isn't an obligation for > finishing school, but it's highly unusual to not know at least one > other language. A language has to be started early to be learned well. I'd start it at 5 (or earlier, if the parents speak it), and let the kid decide which one to learn. Even if he switches languages every year, he'll have an easier time learning yet another language, and a better appreciation of Lojban, than if he had no second language. After 9 he can study grammar, linguistics, etc. Should preference be given to the six source languages? Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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