From lojban+bncCMvjp-TQBRDRyafiBBoEV5NB8A@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 23 11:52:52 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OcNM0-0000By-Pp; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:52:51 -0700 Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18sf2717364fxm.16 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:52:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vFIOyX+BjbjFUCBfygVVgBi26kvw+q+84OLQFCdoaoM=; b=rCxrfOfiHg8kdkknpfEi6LqFH8oZvfp2cPgG6qNI68Knlm36F10E4aO6iyr1z+bOjH 2mUlIJy3oZuCcSTv07m7prX4jxguJykc9FIWocokk5YKYpkG2ESL1USWNR51q8lUoe2N kSY/MKq3Z2bhiaDA05ZDR6N1OUBIYEbc8YlHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=qKUedgOOlvab2XqEA+A/bDI7nSYFojL4akzJ5mDzOoM48357sDxPIm+whva8RIV1qL txZi5iOK6syCdMp0r9YGS9BtqXnlyVeqAEWfULGcV00VGVa3uZUTGiHQBxpKvVPsEfOA 1HHjEg8tZPohRI36Mo84Tx0eCetNVOAsiOWpU= Received: by 10.223.94.139 with SMTP id z11mr201737fam.41.1279911121701; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.87.65.40 with SMTP id s40ls1238473fgk.2.p; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.90.19 with SMTP id n19mr89584fgb.28.1279911119404; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.90.19 with SMTP id n19mr89583fgb.28.1279911119382; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f47.google.com (mail-fx0-f47.google.com [209.85.161.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y2si157495fau.14.2010.07.23.11.51.58; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.47; Received: by mail-fx0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 12so5282261fxm.6 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.220.14 with SMTP id x14mr897309muq.51.1279911118163; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.177.11 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100723180519.GS4511@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100723180519.GS4511@digitalkingdom.org> From: Daniel Brockman Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban spelling alphabet To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > This has been done a few times before, including *in the CLL*: > > http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html > -- search for "radio" Yeah, I knew about that one, and I obviously like the fact that it's based on an international standard. I just thought it would be nice to have one that's more specifically suited to Lojban. > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=vlaselyle'u Didn't know about that one! It's pretty similar to mine, but it has six duplicated vowel pairs instead of one. Also, it only has a few ones with the symbolized letter repeated, and it uses several undefined words. One advantage it has is that {kunti} for space makes a whole lot more sense than {du}, which I chose because it's a monosyllable that also happens to be in GOhA (although I'm not sure what the advantage of having all the words be in GOhA is). I'm also thinking of defining a pair of cmavo that means "treat all these words as letterals, and parse the result as Lojban text." I'd also like to have a way to state the text normally in parallel, so maybe that'd be three cmavo --- [FOO normal text] BAR spelled-out text BAZ --- where the "FOO normal text" part is optional. So, let's say they're called {sa'e'u}, {lo'e'u} and {le'e'u}. Then we could have, for example, mi'e la sa'e'u daniel lo'e'u dunda alba nirna irci estre laldo le'e'u Anyone like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.