From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCY563iBBoEjce0Bw@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 24 16:13:49 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ocnub-0007FU-2f; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:48 -0700 Received: by gwj18 with SMTP id 18sf5089612gwj.16 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=xhKksDUuLzHf3mhYEwJm6IEstTEgt5k6KNBXBzticiE=; b=4I/pqzYXw3zmAVaeEklklXuDlOHghp25zsXTJksjPfTbYs/FF9vnhuA42MZPkHmL7k XZGJWIUuDVfJ5unGDtTcOZsmwl50E+gjmzCNhpNawFxe66AI9gZ0XhAD/zINd2H012J4 eMcD/GcW9fEkm1Sj77pMVht0DPjqt8JW2Wp24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=cx5IHhzApYQT3EpugF/I59kDmg8fA9k9R7Izt/iss+itcwqLDoa6AfaOfW3Xev4w+a CMI6mr/TWY1izAReHQp+AVT3CQ9+gaThBkytIDyd29R2bqfthjEioGKmJla/miW2WpvH Ym4mEaOorIRvaYdB4QNYyhV/qC7bBDnjq25gQ= Received: by 10.90.71.20 with SMTP id t20mr1414467aga.53.1280013208858; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls843242ibg.3.p; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.3.79 with SMTP id 15mr430133icn.20.1280013208076; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.3.79 with SMTP id 15mr430132icn.20.1280013208050; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si1217999ibb.1.2010.07.24.16.13.27; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=dHSs0xG8jwIKQYJm3xg8/3EbLs6EAEdD2Kdw41XeKVQ= c=1 sm=0 a=AcSwbZVMxvkA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=EflGV8V1EpQCRxyLHaYA:9 a=kQS8w8nrt93ljsUAgnMA:7 a=cKueZcYwdDA5xgQk3nvlZfZopHEA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:56941] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 2F/E7-10420-6937B4C4; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD653706 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation help Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:13:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <8CCF95EC2898257-270C-E5AA@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201007241913.18256.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 24 July 2010 13:47:00 Warrigal wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM, wrote: > > Would someone be so kind as to translate the following from English to > > Lojban. > > I'll do my best. > > > Forest of Refuge > > "the forest of safety" (common noun): "lo snura ricfoi" > "the Forest of Safety" (proper noun): "la snura ricfoi" > > Replacing "lo" with "la" turns the phrase from a description into a name. How about "nurselkla" (a safe place to go to) for "refuge"? > > Monastery > > There's no existing word for this; the compound word I came up with > for "the monastery" is "lo jdaseiprezda", literally "the > religiously-separate-person-home". Sounds good to me. > > Library of ancient wisdom > > "the library of ancient knowledge": "lo tcepru selju'o ckusro" > "the library of ancient wiseness": "lo tcepru kamprije ckusro" "ancient" could also be translated "dzena", which means "ancestral". > > Sky Pirates > > "the sky thieves-of-the-sea": "lo tsani blozeile'a" > "the sky thieves": "lo tsani zeile'a" > "the flying thieves": "lo vofli zeile'a" That has to be "zerle'a" or "zeirle'a". "vofli zeile'a" is a quite unclear lujvo of "vofli" and a preposition meaning "in class". Could also be "vijyzeile'a" (stealers of airplanes, or people who use airplanes to steal) or "vijyzergau" (people who commit crimes that have something to do with airplanes), or "vijyzersazri" (people who unlawfully take command of planes). > > New people > > "the people we're unfamiliar with": "lo cnino prenu" > "the people that are unfamiliar with something": "lo se cnino" > > > If someone was to give a complement that transalted as "you think like > > us" how would that be written? > > ".i do pensi fi'o simsa mi'a" would probably be adequate. I'm assuming > that "us" means "me and at least one other but not you". Or "do simsa mi'a lo ka pensi". Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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