From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCTobjiBBoEnJsuIw@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 26 15:48:08 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OdWSp-0005Ux-3B; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:48:07 -0700 Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3sf997054vws.16 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VUqyxjXTp64g1TiOOhaQ22g5+AcsP4BtOwQl8XNS7yE=; b=kc9v8CZfSZK0h+S8XNBo3QMVucNmX0M45tI0H34AxZcsvT5JrmkQ2TKHldTn/tHcOX Ky+FVRcjShtc70b+FzM7WVPeuTpt3bT/CE9AP3VGbVGmIUjneozgQU/BzYw7IIlDDtBF 6a749xzCOO5L3KAQ2lJPKrZebqSWLuIXyxgDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=z7n4r5nKXOTLF2/IA5lHWt8JnMQUBAYypHlXg5qcN6uaE/+7pXpZ3z0kaWPZSYQ8CG e1brKT+CQ4VMXdCpWNIHHNrNtst+I+4GG5MIUMWzUIbUQmOQwNm2QgXPaNPDj6xfo6Wx CY+Rk10oi/ldW5XtmY7WwNozsx5KrCxSt9aps= Received: by 10.224.64.143 with SMTP id e15mr996295qai.31.1280184467283; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.103.137 with SMTP id k9ls1245012qao.0.p; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.95.10 with SMTP id b10mr784181qan.21.1280184466326; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.95.10 with SMTP id b10mr784180qan.21.1280184466281; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x40si2643633qce.7.2010.07.26.15.47.45; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.54; Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so4300173vws.41 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.59.202 with SMTP id m10mr4553566vch.48.1280184464988; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.76.204 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.76.204 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:47:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] limerick From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e887827485b9a048c522c2a --e0cb4e887827485b9a048c522c2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I didn't know the rule about the third syllable. I was just loosely trying to fit the rythm of there once was a X from Y. Thanks for the input. I'll have to keep that in mind next time On Jul 26, 2010 6:41 PM, "Warrigal" > wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > puzuvu zasti fa lo nan... You really should indicate the cmavo stress when you do that. puZUvu zasti fa lo nanmu poi ponse lo cmalu danlu .i RI ze'e sipna gi'E mutce citka doi mlatu plixau fi su'O da xu Of course, for it to be a perfect limerick (every third beat stressed), it would have to be this, which is incorrect: puZUvu zaSTI fa lo NANmu poi PONse lo CMAlu . DANlu .i RI ze'e SIPna gi'E mutce CITka doi MLAtu pliXAU fi su'O da xu So the last line is not too long at all, but you have two brivla stressed on the wrong syllable (and one not stressed at all), and an awkward pause in line two. 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I didn't know the rule about the third syllable.=A0 I was just loose= ly trying to fit the rythm of there once was a X from Y.=A0 Thanks for the = input.=A0 I'll have to keep that in mind next time

On Jul 26, 2010 6:41 PM, "Warrigal" = <ihope127+w@gmail.com> = wrote:

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM, L= uke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.c= om> wrote:
> puzuvu zasti fa lo nan...

You really should indicate the cma= vo stress when you do that.

puZUvu zasti fa lo nanmu

poi ponse lo cmalu danlu

.i RI ze'= e sipna
gi'E mutce citka
doi mlatu plixau fi su'O da xu

Of course, for it to be a perfect limerick (every third beat
stressed), it would have to be this, which is incorrect:

puZUvu zaSTI fa lo NANmu
poi PONse lo CMAlu . DANlu
.i RI ze'e SIPna
gi'E mutce CITka
doi MLAtu pliXAU fi su'O da xu

So the last line is not too long at all, but you have two brivla
stressed on the wrong syllable (and one not stressed at all), and an
awkward pause in line two. You can sort of fudge the stress by, say,
making the first syllable higher-pitched and the second syllable
louder, but eh.

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