From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhC6scbiBBoEqDEmSA@googlegroups.com Thu Jul 29 08:06:09 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OeUg5-000540-L7; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:06:08 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf97064pxi.16 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JrrsZ5N79aFCpOahNRsVEK6CJm5VnXHsXfV7EcVWy1A=; b=r4W3smfZDuupxURmlpXp2fPn8nElsWwtBjqwAzUHb1twlhtaX9GAUUuxpKbXylHiz9 ME5LReNj573HdaFQ/p+pcFyxs8UW+4crzpaHmsZR72zWMwu5utOvBGH22MAtl++qv4si HHV6fJuUtuMjtDSGrqnLXmKJEcmbA5hXmdwrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g0lxyCSjBr34Rc1z/VsKOhKzGan1FeNzLvso5mFYuLo8nNPrcAtZF8jeM4czo2XqlN z2Edrm2WFkzMdG5dhd9/WLtNU+cDP1Q8AgEWejC1NOBwPaY7RsClpgc/QE/TiuXTPBII Xe5CyEQSS8n1T9ZGHzwDhuzX9OuX5lvUM0vMc= Received: by 10.142.247.6 with SMTP id u6mr32391wfh.16.1280415930787; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.143.21.16 with SMTP id y16ls7804335wfi.0.p; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr60081wfe.6.1280415929186; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr60080wfe.6.1280415929135; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f178.google.com (mail-pv0-f178.google.com [74.125.83.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u29si1368672wfh.4.2010.07.29.08.05.28; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.178; Received: by pva18 with SMTP id 18so184350pva.23 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.78.2 with SMTP id f2mr284910wal.142.1280415922373; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.52.31 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:05:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8CCF95EC2898257-270C-E5AA@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:05:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation help From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:45 AM, tijlan wrote: > On 24 July 2010 18:47, Warrigal wrote: >> > > On 25 July 2010 02:09, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Saturday 24 July 2010 19:35:16 Warrigal wrote: >> > I'm not really clear on the meaning of "lo ka pensi". =A0Is it the >> > property of thought, i.e. that property which is possessed by all >> > thinking things and only thinking things, or is it the specific manner >> > in which someone thinks? =A0I had assumed the former, which would make >> > that sentence mean "You are similar to us in that you and we both >> > think". >> >> How about "lo pu'u pensi" or "lo zu'o pensi"? > > I would say "do simsa mi lo nu pensi". The official restriction of the x2= to > "ka/ni" is not useful, in my opinion. (Note also that "mi" can mean multi= ple > speakers.) How about "do pensi tai tu'a mi'a"? --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.