From lojban+bncCNf8pM-bDBC9uNPhBBoErU5hZQ@googlegroups.com Wed Jul 07 12:58:06 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWaks-0005E5-Nq; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:58:06 -0700 Received: by yxd39 with SMTP id 39sf32725yxd.16 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:57:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :sender:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mSolp3kz3dv6paWNSGlPmVTc2Nx7J9ct1Op8vw7i4GA=; b=rMbP1iDMxSOQEvHjk4QQK/RoGcRdKeNRKvH6IcDvVD02zu7UCfv9kvcrXKYOKbxpWG 5IMnYVYJFS+rHGQEyvfbGXCer99FI4cVBfjvkWYmx1aNr2GwWx9nda03dlXwpJeIp8oc 9FGwaPd7oOA2/EDGqe/D0ONMI3l0XYp4+gDmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4TKQFjnz3vNvQXnhnMVYXuQCtMCfVeYclzHrJ7Vlx8xHvYQeA3n9qwNbytViQ7Jutp SiwIB0j7UYzSSnb0lvBJaNgc+hu1NSE37cGzvMEtZqDE3Z7WIySV3qEVe5NlHx9s6L0K GUHMmB7kokUPDwLk3kuh1P/9+EYWepvWIt1wI= Received: by 10.101.180.3 with SMTP id h3mr706963anp.59.1278532669282; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:57:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.148.2 with SMTP id a2ls8331146ano.1.p; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.145.34 with SMTP id x34mr5529744ann.32.1278532668543; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.236.202 with SMTP id w52mr145356weq.9.1278532364171; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.236.202 with SMTP id w52mr145355weq.9.1278532364141; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p38si422439wej.12.2010.07.07.12.52.43; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.50; Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so1358804wwi.7 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:52:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.178.196 with SMTP id f46mr1472751wem.62.1278532362976; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.86.211 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:52:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:52:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] beyond good and evil From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65ae598543e98048ad18307 --0016e65ae598543e98048ad18307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 7 July 2010 20:15, Luke Bergen wrote: > Also, nice catch komfo. It's another bad habit of mine that I think of the > relationship itself instead of the x1 when I use lo (e.g. I think of "speed" > as {lo sutra} when really {lo sutra} is "the fast one" or {lo melbi} as > being "beauty" instead of "the beautiful one", etc...). > That's how by and large abstract nouns are conceived in Esperanto. Adjective "rapid-a" is "fast", and noun "rapid-o" is "speed (fast-ness)" rather than "something which is fast". But this scheme is inconsistent. For instance "German-a" is an adjective for "German", but "German-o" is a noun for "a German (person)" rather than "German-ness". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e65ae598543e98048ad18307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7 July 2010 20:15, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Also, nice catch komfo. =A0It's another bad habit of mi= ne that I think of the relationship itself instead of the x1 when I use lo = (e.g. I think of "speed" as {lo sutra} when really {lo sutra} is = "the fast one" or {lo melbi} as being "beauty" instead = of "the beautiful one", etc...).

That's how by and large abstract nouns are = conceived in Esperanto. Adjective "rapid-a" is "fast", = and noun "rapid-o" is "speed (fast-ness)" rather than &= quot;something which is fast". But this scheme is inconsistent. For in= stance "German-a" is an adjective for "German", but &qu= ot;German-o" is a noun for "a German (person)" rather than &= quot;German-ness".


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