From lojban+bncCNf8pM-bDBDdr9fhBBoEBHIP4A@googlegroups.com Thu Jul 08 06:52:00 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWrVp-0004Rt-Kc; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:51:59 -0700 Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4sf1623580gyg.16 for ; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:51:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :sender:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bR8fpeo9fm33qX6hfLD5FqqaXuRf9O4DjsvxsxwD3tQ=; b=a5dpHVUwXdQgpNFNE2WAdhe9d1yTVaeDnvvi7TycSYcCfk+Oenaxz/c10DXV3hFy/J h6HEAyNbmN1bySYXrb2DHKj4pLF8x0exjcN/FvbWHQdwoeiNK7qYiERtPad/eTnvD579 68nPuS/MiUNU4MqmVO8Zw0t5R/kXxxGyDBzak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GpgOI+N7dVYQlB+IGnpcCr6q4/4idlCwv5JaR4ZBhEsN60MYhf6P62gm3uW8RZGD2m zz+qeLLd4Nyuxrk1yd0wAM38PRsIJs56bdKmOu/eY9TzZy2cnNuBbU7ER8u+h0ZolRpH AmDvrJ9+knevMulmJnYRHP75wmPnn2uu9j/LE= Received: by 10.100.197.1 with SMTP id u1mr831237anf.38.1278597085544; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.132.19 with SMTP id j19ls171339ybn.4.p; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.239.16 with SMTP id m16mr198413ybh.19.1278597085028; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.234.95 with SMTP id r73mr242017weq.5.1278596795664; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.234.95 with SMTP id r73mr242016weq.5.1278596795623; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f174.google.com (mail-wy0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v76si142896weq.3.2010.07.08.06.46.34; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.174; Received: by mail-wy0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 23so602459wyf.5 for ; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.145.1 with SMTP id b1mr6718738wbv.132.1278596794434; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.86.211 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:46:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] beyond good and evil From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163683362abe46fc048ae083fd --00163683362abe46fc048ae083fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8 July 2010 11:02, Oleksii Melnyk wrote: > > > 2010/7/7 Luke Bergen > > In the end I think I like {bancu lo kamvrude jo'u lo kampalci} best. >> > > I think here can be only 1 NU: =ABbancu lo NU vrude jo'e palci=BB. > Did you mean "jo'u"? I don't think it's about "jo'e", a union of sets. In the book Nietzsche denies that there is a universal morality that distinguishes "good" and "evil", critiquing previous philosophers who were seeing these as two distinct categories of behaviour. The title addresses these two items which Nietzsche sees as false and as forming a false dichotomy (and what he is arguing for is to be found as "bancu"s x1). In order for him to address the problem, he would need two "lo". "vrude" and "palci"s x1s can be qualities, so "kamvrude" and "kampalci" or "lo nu ..." seem unnecessary. I like xorxes' "bancu lo vrude jo'u lo palci"= . mu'o mi'e tijlan --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00163683362abe46fc048ae083fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 8 July 2010 11:02, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:


2010/7/7 Luke Bergen &= lt;lukeabergen@g= mail.com>

In the end I think I like {bancu lo kamvrude jo'u lo kampalci} best.

I think here can be only 1 NU: =ABbancu lo NU = vrude jo'e palci=BB.

Did you mean = "jo'u"? I don't think it's about "jo'e"= , a union of sets.

In the book Nietzsche denies that there is a universal morality that di= stinguishes "good" and "evil", critiquing previous phil= osophers who were seeing these as two distinct categories of behaviour. The= title addresses these two items which Nietzsche sees as false and as formi= ng a false dichotomy (and what he is arguing for is to be found as "ba= ncu"s x1). In order for him to address the problem, he would need two = "lo".

"vrude" and "palci"s x1s can be qualities, so "= ;kamvrude" and "kampalci" or "lo nu ..." seem unne= cessary. I like xorxes' "bancu lo vrude jo'u lo palci".
mu'o mi'e tijlan

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