From lojban+bncCIfx8JOUAxDvrobjBBoER8XuTg@googlegroups.com Tue Aug 10 11:16:36 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OitNH-0000um-M8; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:36 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf310364fxm.16 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:x-virus-scanned:received:received :message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TnBE8PsCCPWZElDUbWB7PfLYSnZrlf3YBZryf4QsEus=; b=2ItlnhGx2Zh/Q98+DYPgprJKeznvC/yOmNX/rF8NQTU5rB73Q29R7DFQa91wrpHa83 NdGB95dHXDdBLw4AWOApgd0DmK3kcS+NPTYxdIhbF9onZT0+BqhaxKKIZTDCoh8Vv/gx 68UNe4nErNGVDW5gYn30VHZusVWVs/vuvtc5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-virus-scanned:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nqjkl/MiSZ4sBsMq+HDW1k1nLRYePt94dz4Llxe1NOSsYUqXIy0FB0OfxkuGeZ2X2P j07kVXGY/dptNKhuqu5avoGoTOOTMwWfIXs+600LIvVWIPlyo0VIukJrEeRcH8XdysS3 8qOhK13TleSIYEYDG2FBKzoDxE9OJYvl9crbM= Received: by 10.223.7.21 with SMTP id b21mr469721fab.8.1281464175211; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.48.209 with SMTP id s17ls1002274bkf.2.p; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.82.130 with SMTP id b2mr567279bkl.12.1281464174404; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.82.130 with SMTP id b2mr567278bkl.12.1281464174378; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (mail.wybt.net [195.191.196.3]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z25si3476104bku.5.2010.08.10.11.16.14; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) client-ip=195.191.196.3; Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EBF48B8D for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:14:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.wybt.net Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.wybt.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iJ6YvitpAUlg for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.94] (HSI-KBW-078-042-025-249.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [78.42.25.249]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 739F648B8B for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C61974B.5070400@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:15:39 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100620 Icedove/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] LLG Annual meeting - 2009 annual minutes References: <4C5E1071.8090308@lojban.org> <4C6164EB.9020309@perpetuum-immobile.de> <876437.9266.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <876437.9266.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Original-Sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) smtp.mail=timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not too long ago, I wrote: > I am interested in lojban not exploding due to the general lazyness > of big parts of the community. At least here and there I get little > sparks of motivation and willpower. Whoops, that totally came out differently from what I was aiming at! The two sentences were not at all meant to be related. What I was trying to say: I don't want lojban to explode. People are lazy. I am, too. Sometimes i get bursts of motivation, such as right now. And about the translation=85 Well, big parts of the site user interface are already translated and, much to my dismay, are pretty horrifying. The translations sound totally forced and it's not always very straightforward, what is meant. I suppose everyone who'd visit the site would immediately be horrified and leave. Translating, to me, feels like wasted effort, since in my experience many germans (in our target audience) can read english just fine= . And the video, well=85 I'm having hard times coming up with topics, then with something to say and then actually doing it. It feels weird, sitting in my apartment, talking lojban by myself, as the door to the stairway lets a lot of vibrations through, so, yeah=85 All bad excuses, I guess ;) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.