From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCe-6DjBBoEGaMS9g@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 15 12:19:20 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Okijg-0007qC-4l; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:19:19 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf508216pxi.16 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:19:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:mime-version :received:received:received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dUgJm6PuIWRRhXaQ/G16Ov7ILXYO8vaMLtbmp3Fa0CM=; b=282ksuhzwoTp4xk0HjdFY5MXfbFsQZhb2frwn9dUkAHV02msekEsld0Mrdmu9k2BCL HywKsUl2KjatoNKRbdbXBYC771jOoGS5742UmLsfIvvhStiazRBNxTLCv3YhgyrOqvGi yh2kYznT/0Qr/gaJHjjWPNky7TRdZyPWF553E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Su18Y9DFVmqrKP1Ll9ALIEdmc2QSb2tdI4jIZhVzhiIY95U9tbABfSHkseAFiRIUB2 H+MXcQIcnm3dAKSHf3VY8oIX0aBMKja8Y5+u43j+iTfQSnJAAOaaxEXpA9LQxegCAQJR Qbex0jNt7Sx1Emm7N9GqrPxjdj2+ZN2fJ+XOE= Received: by 10.114.54.5 with SMTP id c5mr295118waa.17.1281899934754; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.135.14 with SMTP id m14ls3576258wan.2.p; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr1240816wad.13.1281899933831; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr1240815wad.13.1281899933805; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (chain.digitalkingdom.org [64.81.66.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r11si7278948waj.0.2010.08.15.12.18.52; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.81.66.169; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OkijK-0007pl-VH for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:51 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OkijC-0007pU-Sj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:50 -0700 Received: by vws15 with SMTP id 15so3350453vws.40 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.98.140 with SMTP id q12mr2510197vcn.128.1281899916419; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.123.96 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.123.96 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:18:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Trilling/rolling R From: Luke Bergen To: "lojban-list@lojban.org" X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64607c227e294048de19542 --0016e64607c227e294048de19542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 After watching limdar's (I think it was his) latest pronounciation video I have realized once again that the american pronounciation of 'r' is not generally preferred. I've gotten into the habit of trilling/rolling my 'r's (what exactly is the difference between trilling and rolling?) as often as possible but one instance that I JUST CAN'T GET IT is my own damn name. So, O jbocecmu, how do you pronounce {cribe} and if you trill/roll the 'r' did it take practice or did it come naturally? tl;dr any tips on pronouncing 'r' after soft sounds like 'c'? Please excuse any spelling errors. My new android smart phone (.uicai) doesn't have spell checking built in -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e64607c227e294048de19542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

After watching limdar's (I think it was his) latest pronounciation v= ideo I have realized once again that the american pronounciation of 'r&= #39; is not generally preferred.

I've gotten into the habit of trilling/rolling my 'r's (what= exactly is the difference between trilling and rolling?) as often as possi= ble but one instance that I JUST CAN'T GET IT is my own damn name.=A0 S= o, O jbocecmu, how do you pronounce {cribe} and if you trill/roll the '= r' did it take practice or did it come naturally?

tl;dr any tips on pronouncing 'r' after soft sounds like 'c&= #39;?

Please excuse any spelling errors.=A0 My new android smart phone (.uicai= ) doesn't have spell checking built in

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