From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCFtNviBBoEoklbOA@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 02 07:45:48 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OfwGq-0000jU-MZ; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:47 -0700 Received: by gyb13 with SMTP id 13sf8562783gyb.16 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=2FH4xc2GwI49wL87OlpXze4HoPWZ6RNEigmgFWhRTvI=; b=03KGMAAExsXHbeFDVGTP4+NU9ZDecfgea3g5f41IZlF9UNWdVpGki0SnzfQmPmPgKh fGTIh8VaVM5MdxK0ABqpTCsQgxbhZOtOBIonVvIEVdYmAp3azDq35rhLW5mIC4DxyGku L1M8QKAptVcLfKDimJXcrrs1WFbP4n3uBQXwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :message-id:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qWLMVF35Cn39yIF2Wa1zqoW49OfVjMTMnhtmXGZ+iRSV6PPj9eugHGCPcYDIuh8PYX CQW3mDbWArfHajj62cvGua52dQCwsc1ABK19KKl5oWdk5DMAGDqy3tWWy77eq5EK/D2W 1fZzea5NxS5cLUeMhB+T2gWl4nEnV6XyU7uj4= Received: by 10.90.3.33 with SMTP id 33mr1252397agc.45.1280760325726; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls1395165ibr.1.p; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.5.197 with SMTP id 5mr628853icx.13.1280760324887; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.5.197 with SMTP id 5mr628852icx.13.1280760324873; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z11si3703416ibb.0.2010.08.02.07.45.24; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=UmXZWupe4sRXzVmDSlBdSzmDHC7SbwGEnE0ZMitDzeU= c=1 sm=0 a=A8lezmXpn-UA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=u5pGHPZjLOJ1doGV54EA:9 a=iJLUF0Y-tGXiOiFoJW-WBfv83AUA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:49030] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id EA/28-11447-30AD65C4; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:45:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC73D140F9 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:45:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] six of one, half a dozen of the other Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:45:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201008021045.13763.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline A while back I came up with this translation: le drata cu mudvu .ije le se drata cu klama fu zi'o Any other ideas? Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.