From lojban+bncCKi12tLPFBCNitziBBoEpa9cpg@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 02 10:49:32 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofz8W-0000IO-8n; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:49:32 -0700 Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36sf1166571wyb.16 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:49:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-provags-id :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vJUuDJXxXr9q/Gx4w3YRshie+lzmhdwxDzwrR2l9xio=; b=Z+8Agrve1jUr+O29WnQuG7aWO4NaqbPQxhsfQ1cfnGUMeEjJKCOVfI2GQ12NhmpANR w0uQUBSpi5hyr7Qf3ObiaqCA52HbWNtx3uBDsfLYRfKRcKGnZu/lHXkqHsGwXe7SGQGc +Z4Xue7FBi8DBbysIyuQ+1Gvvx29jY3VP13kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-provags-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GI98f0+Da4xqyu3Sp7SS6h7a6WBYEbe+KbSMgiZrI3wXFt4jMuhxmAqYHQm0iSKJze nTvxxyIyMS4ZbDLDo5TTI9/Tl0lF3kIfzpFE/d1RHg6/9AK4G4rf2kWRNVmMdlzgpaid 00QPG+yKLG85v2N/0whDL3KWCxt+9W0RBAf6g= Received: by 10.216.144.194 with SMTP id n44mr1166077wej.19.1280771341137; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.156.141 with SMTP id x13ls1005689wbw.2.p; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.129.14 with SMTP id m14mr262369wbs.2.1280771339371; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.129.14 with SMTP id m14mr262368wbs.2.1280771339346; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u3si2132885wbb.3.2010.08.02.10.48.59; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.10; Received: from [192.168.1.102] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M8KKw-1OsrQ80SQM-00vtCp; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:48:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids Show - connecting the tubes From: CosmicRay In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:48:57 +0100 Message-Id: References: <201008010014.33555.phma@phma.optus.nu> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:zQlRfVTh7O+rC6Muw6phVuLmOaRqpxBOQfweIbyZ3Ix 2O9BOOFWjlEsJFfL8Rz28Hzmo6ptDh8bbEsT0rSIvvuHWxSpoR 8XOV/ET+ODAvEFbqMvDwhhO7l2w36JruYQzbj9HhhzRn/nBycE MoBuR5++kw6qajQExOQwW0deCVMPHdI830/xy5W5z3exKOEJtv rii5zy4Pijn9Y5Za+CegFTXy0jWZ0f1RziDMLAuKcs= X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand your concern, but I don't see how having a sound scientific ba= sis for a story is necessarily mutually exclusive to a story that is fun an= d interesting. Pierre and others have been doing a wonderful job in architecting a very be= lievable "what if?" scenario, which will be just as wondrous to kids (if no= t more so) than some guff based on prancing fairies and unicorns, or whatev= er floats your boat... I don't believe we should have to resort to patroni= sing our audience when there are more than enough amazing, astounding and b= eguiling wonders deeply rooted in the realms of facts and knowledge that we= can build our fantasy scenario on. In addition, the scenario being created isn't intended just for this one pr= oject; it's hopefully going to be a solid enough foundation for other creat= ive works to come. As an aside many of the facts and figures being discussed are very unlikely= to directly appear in the kids' show, but their direct and indirect effect= s and their consequences will no doubt feature in some plots that'll be gre= at fun for young minds to explore. I think I'm safe to assume you haven't read what we've got together so far = for the pilot episode outline? Have a look at https://docs.google.com/docu= ment/edit?id=3D1Figgelppx0xep5HC7GRConr445BHq3Oycb6uAB8tL2Y and let me know= if the science gets in the way of the story, and if it does, how it should= be fixed. Feedback and comments are most welcome :-) kozmikreis On 1 Aug 2010, at 17:02, Warrigal wrote: > Guys, I know that this sort of stuff is fun to think about, but please > keep in mind that we're writing fiction, not engineering an actual > space station. The goal of engineering is to produce a system that > will actually work, but the goal of fiction writing is to make > something fun and interesting. If you think our audience will find > measurements and trigonometry interesting, then by all means, think > about them; otherwise, continue brainstorming. >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.