From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCpo63jBBoE7L6LbA@googlegroups.com Tue Aug 17 20:21:36 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OlZDY-0006MD-Bg; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:36 -0700 Received: by wyb42 with SMTP id 42sf40386wyb.16 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=SmPU4X/2oh6hEqWVVo8VhFFCrpNiWzNo4FmDVDxmXx4=; b=RfPOwESuYIjPekbCOZ9dNc4TWyFWqrj1BQIWdD/2Jl/3Ez7BXhj/kmRcWECvRjbBAj 8MB1s5HKSuRw3+fnPh8cBKIkFx2TmPOgjPrhq6NZzxosKho1xqXhbF4HgrKZHaxXw+h1 ZtNWm2hZVmj7AhORGfQrMlmRdklHDYKRob0pc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=I50m0DvF4QS962o/oMbei8KweGhRDAQR1rsvRw0pdqTlIKr1mZlrDHQoRoPuWOlHX/ 393MKh0AjAV8fEFE7z+HlD5uCudiJkGecfhV9OJvfk3eVAgTq5pFJTQNK46XrY31m4pr kKNEKBN8MYscGKcBPmBIAOrenLnrD0fUZWNfQ= Received: by 10.216.145.97 with SMTP id o75mr1876695wej.16.1282101674003; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls78874wbm.1.p; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.148.11 with SMTP id n11mr316080wbv.6.1282101672727; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.148.11 with SMTP id n11mr316079wbv.6.1282101672679; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com (mail-wy0-f180.google.com [74.125.82.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si2866560wbs.1.2010.08.17.20.21.11; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.180; Received: by mail-wy0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 21so201074wya.25 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.47.196 with SMTP id t46mr1544991web.13.1282101671540; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.24.209 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:21:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201008172141.30205.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201008172141.30205.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:21:11 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids Show - names From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6c788b2b93f048e108e88 --001485f6c788b2b93f048e108e88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > How about "rulbic" for Beta? She could go by Melissa or Deborah in English, > and maybe Alpha calls her "melisas" or "deborat" by mistake when speaking > Lojban. Anyone have ideas for her family names? > > rulbic doesn't sound very feminine to me. Also, I didn't get the reference to Melissa until I looked up the etymology. That said, I would expect most English speakers would find a homonym for a name, not using the common name with the same meaning. For instance, Michelle, for a jbopre named .mescul., even though Michelle doesn't mean "humble sister". > Pierre > -- > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:
How about "rulbic" for Beta? She could go by Melissa or Deborah i= n English,
and maybe Alpha calls her "melisas" or "deborat" by mis= take when speaking
Lojban. Anyone have ideas for her family names?

rulbic doesn't sound very feminine to me. Also, I= didn't get the reference to Melissa until I looked up the etymology.
That said, I would expect most English speakers would find a homonym = for a name, not using the common name with the same meaning. For instance, = Michelle, for a jbopre named .mescul., even though Michelle doesn't mea= n "humble sister".
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Pierre
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