From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhCai6_jBBoELmUbbg@googlegroups.com Wed Aug 18 04:36:33 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OlgwG-0001Dq-QY; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:36:33 -0700 Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11sf1583473vws.16 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:36:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JfBTZfa6fU/xj4/xp8d6jldFOW/iuT+5ooEfY4A5dt0=; b=RxKScPEekaHh6r8jBjuHdCYB9c/Y3AfINLUdP5cN4Zbjg3sPZL0cXxZyTYfPb3peJk HEs/UH0noU0WBWYfnNsc6+mkRX8uEt/g8CYrhcC+PT7j6yzdtsTWDhxR1waDn9a4COWp zX15R1sCgo/F6y2LGQV9mNxAXk4W4bVK/J/80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=qqyd+mvnovitIKONvSswinUsSohQxtMy1SAkGl/P2KCSEAWmUn42zkTwS//Rge9LAw 5eEVxlKbFVQUgXFx9WCj7o7s7xhzsJ6pokxtx3D7QvB21rNi4m5wox3v0Xsg44Wf+pDQ Wx1gf/+tWFeG2UQIYPPiNRm2aWaT0QajKu46s= Received: by 10.220.157.140 with SMTP id b12mr470256vcx.8.1282131354353; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.160.2 with SMTP id l2ls86561vcx.4.p; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.189.193 with SMTP id df1mr80990vcb.10.1282131353342; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.189.193 with SMTP id df1mr80989vcb.10.1282131353280; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com (mail-qy0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p29si18595vcr.9.2010.08.18.04.35.52; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.174; Received: by mail-qy0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 9so881009qyk.5 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.96.155 with SMTP id h27mr5249067qan.280.1282131352082; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.9.199 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201008172141.30205.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:35:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids Show - names From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f89995dcbdb5e048e177781 --00c09f89995dcbdb5e048e177781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> How about "rulbic" for Beta? She could go by Melissa or Deborah in >> English, >> and maybe Alpha calls her "melisas" or "deborat" by mistake when speaking >> Lojban. Anyone have ideas for her family names? >> >> rulbic doesn't sound very feminine to me. Also, I didn't get the reference > to Melissa until I looked up the etymology. > > That said, I would expect most English speakers would find a homonym for a > name, not using the common name with the same meaning. For instance, > Michelle, for a jbopre named .mescul., even though Michelle doesn't mean > "humble sister". > > If any lojbanist tried to name their kid "mescul", I'd have to thwack them about the head and shoulders for violating the morphology :-) Perhaps you meant mesycul? --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00c09f89995dcbdb5e048e177781 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jonath= an Jones <eyeonus= @gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 P= M, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
How about "rulbic" for Beta? She could go by Melissa or Deborah i= n English,
and maybe Alpha calls her "melisas" or "deborat" by mis= take when speaking
Lojban. Anyone have ideas for her family names?

rulbic doesn't sound very feminine to me. A= lso, I didn't get the reference to Melissa until I looked up the etymol= ogy.

That said, I would expect most English speakers would find a ho= monym for a name, not using the common name with the same meaning. For inst= ance, Michelle, for a jbopre named .mescul., even though Michelle doesn'= ;t mean "humble sister".
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=A0 If any lojbanist tried to name their = kid "mescul", I'd have to thwack them about the head and shou= lders for violating the morphology :-)=A0 Perhaps you meant mesycul?
=A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 --gejyspa
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