From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDU89ziBBoE39LR3Q@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 02 14:34:44 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Og2eR-0005xT-8L; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:44 -0700 Received: by yxj4 with SMTP id 4sf9216778yxj.16 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=uCmG69e+hDWvbsLNG9R4VxvdMxlvihz2GESRG+uLC84=; b=l81IqhIqDhDXdcWF5ffO0D3OvefcJJKQ8HydgNlhyRybOH8TN52mNHJfz4z4I7EwA8 HZLiOpv3IMLp/9JHG8gZjx62q/aXyVmANrJOBUItsCLLLIEOmoOomyG1IGXowtU3sE9/ 1j5pJY4WOSoc7l3BZygN8XIk/tIgx3DSyCSTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=DI3OuaCGMo3hlHNXxaGBElpPIdH8D1lwVjc9HPKw7VlpHUMW96PhzEWTOufxuUBP5P oO2W+zb0WIRlg9Qfqu9Wwc+yJjB8zvL7g5vUrwSoRtrLaWoCwe4xmtcluhcSstYP7cSh lS6e6M7vjowNzvHoPqFyN561LzVEVv+La3aG0= Received: by 10.90.113.1 with SMTP id l1mr1366830agc.10.1280784852229; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls1497494ibr.1.p; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.191.68 with SMTP id dl4mr1032969ibb.18.1280784851491; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.191.68 with SMTP id dl4mr1032968ibb.18.1280784851473; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si3945612ibb.1.2010.08.02.14.34.11; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8Ouyix1mjDiY39+WXI3mGP2cYJJcyvuZWGfIWBrWPVc= c=1 sm=0 a=2sy_q8OeNxcA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=Ivu6DmfUSbzP9ankyo0A:9 a=EtOdkDWt7ziwAMm939VM0dPLKmAA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=CsXuKD2Hm-2ZrcLG:21 a=QE3-Qw8KLVXIdoXz:21 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:51641] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 28/8C-27492-2D9375C4; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:34:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B5E18D7 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] six of one, half a dozen of the other Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:34:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201008021045.13763.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201008021734.04322.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 02 August 2010 16:45:30 Yoav Nir wrote: > That which is different from something moves, and that which something is > different from it goes? "muvdu" and "klama" have the same place structure except for k5, the vehicl= e.=20 So "muvdu" and "klama fu zi'o" are equivalent. "le se drata" is "one" in=20 a "one ... the other" construction. Other languages' versions: French: blanc bonnet, bonnet blanc (white bonnet, bonnet white) Hungarian: egyik kutya, m=E1sik eb ("kutya" and "eb" both mean "dog") Hungarian: egyik tizenkilenc, m=E1sik egy h=EDj=E1n husz (one is nineteen, = other is=20 one less than twenty) I've translated the Hungarian sayings into Spanish as "El uno es perro, el= =20 otro es can" and "El uno es diecinueve, el otro es undeveinte". Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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