From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDNrrDjBBoETu-Djg@googlegroups.com Wed Aug 18 10:24:53 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OlmNb-0005kj-2p; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:52 -0700 Received: by wwi14 with SMTP id 14sf253317wwi.16 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xCHpSRpVnzdULCzPgVjpVHa/Jcza2diqwA2md9aB6gk=; b=61CZ4t0A2HZPIPenpDWQQK+OixIhNq9Jd5tDCMZgVl0C2j6AS/WXf9POob6dfAdW5S MP9d8blY7kB/1p4J7PzUcGfBDxhfdO3SjmCap2LR7ZFFf1jdpMYkTKzrYCSPFCGtZI7k t2mvOTYzVgzEosrgzQM/LB3ahl3JDTMeSCtSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=D+lYxa0Fizs8b3RPLH18Xp+uCwWGDX6/r19tJBYZa8L0WtOaO9iPBSLWuYEcvUFlLz VNMuXT0lajoY9FT+NBZRVlXMzFIh37dy1xJ32p5wIqJeoa3WzGSa0ih2VB3gpDr7ZaMF DDWfRnWtBH0z5KO4xjCwRXBUHxd+PvS4fwmqs= Received: by 10.216.144.38 with SMTP id m38mr2028453wej.29.1282152269780; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.14.140 with SMTP id d12ls40374eed.1.p; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with SMTP id s14mr43093eeb.10.1282152266602; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.14 with SMTP id s14mr43092eeb.10.1282152266522; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b5si537390eei.0.2010.08.18.10.24.25; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by mail-ew0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 26so707641ewy.41 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.53.19 with SMTP id f19mr2272915wec.22.1282152265340; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.93.65 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201008172141.30205.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:24:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids Show - names From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db24d052d862048e1c569c --0016e6db24d052d862048e1c569c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> How about "rulbic" for Beta? She could go by Melissa or Deborah in >>> English, >>> and maybe Alpha calls her "melisas" or "deborat" by mistake when speaking >>> Lojban. Anyone have ideas for her family names? >>> >>> rulbic doesn't sound very feminine to me. Also, I didn't get the >> reference to Melissa until I looked up the etymology. >> >> That said, I would expect most English speakers would find a homonym for a >> name, not using the common name with the same meaning. For instance, >> Michelle, for a jbopre named .mescul., even though Michelle doesn't mean >> "humble sister". >> >> > If any lojbanist tried to name their kid "mescul", I'd have to thwack > them about the head and shoulders for violating the morphology :-) Perhaps > you meant mesycul? > me'icul ? > --gejyspa > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Michael= Turniansky <= mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 a= t 11:21 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Abb= at <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
How about "rulbic" for Beta? She could go by Melissa or Deborah i= n English,
and maybe Alpha calls her "melisas" or "deborat" by mis= take when speaking
Lojban. Anyone have ideas for her family names?

rulbic doesn't sound very feminine to me. A= lso, I didn't get the reference to Melissa until I looked up the etymol= ogy.

That said, I would expect most English speakers would find a ho= monym for a name, not using the common name with the same meaning. For inst= ance, Michelle, for a jbopre named .mescul., even though Michelle doesn'= ;t mean "humble sister".
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=A0 If any lojbanist tried to name = their kid "mescul", I'd have to thwack them about the head an= d shoulders for violating the morphology :-)=A0 Perhaps you meant mesycul?<= br>

me'icul ?
= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 --gejyspa
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