From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCF1cTjBBoE-P9xZg@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 22 06:48:14 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OnAu8-0006XC-8M; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:48:14 -0700 Received: by qwj8 with SMTP id 8sf2290479qwj.16 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:48:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F+bsy6DWmfFUCx38L/O5rsPMnZFvFdulOjSx831Mk3Y=; b=wAA1qSlLspsnSJRTJAxyHCpXzIhppRAKiRNFu2EX1dAwlzWYKa78nt8SL7J35zMFAN hQy9UTLyY4Qv0r65Ndju7HufQrgP883XtGCvpLliszNi8AXPc4T+NE+jzFwl9v9lL7U6 NTJwbEn55+ko2dj0eFExxHyxDL8gDDvNr7QGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=OWsH93i8NXCLRKOZz/06iF6gv+vJ1mZm9+pR7TGsZ2ROIVlvZShLkEPBtJL0Hz2StW TbR1SeQHR4S+lsFthqenOLA1TdN1MZ/xHR+J4cdMqFQPfVpkqCbZrF24hcRCRCoh94oL E1/bhJt6jbbxvEPJSAEiskGSStHavUwUSeHJc= Received: by 10.224.60.81 with SMTP id o17mr189149qah.19.1282484869811; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.96.204 with SMTP id i12ls784133qan.6.p; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.28.211 with SMTP id n19mr427760qac.19.1282484869121; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.28.211 with SMTP id n19mr427759qac.19.1282484869050; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f46.google.com (mail-vw0-f46.google.com [209.85.212.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x2si3052223qcq.3.2010.08.22.06.47.47; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.46; Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3so5461153vws.33 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.127.37 with SMTP id e37mr2478203vcs.31.1282484867689; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.63.10 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.63.10 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:47:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:47:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Cool From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369f9b5ef7ee3a048e69c6ff --0016369f9b5ef7ee3a048e69c6ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If tou're going to use .ybu why not drop the 'r' alltogether? xamgykulu On Aug 22, 2010 9:30 AM, "Ivo Doko" wrote: On 20 August 2010 17:35, Stela Selckiku wrote: > {xamgrkulu} > {zabnrkulu} > {jikcrkulu} > {cninrkulu} I don't know about you but to me the consonant clusters {mgrk}, {bnrk}, {kcrk} and {nrk} don't seem very Lojbanic and regardless of whether they're Lojbanic or not they're definitely a bit difficult to pronounce... It would be near impossible to pronounce those clusters properly, instead you'd probably say {xamgyrkulu}, {zabnyrkulu}, {jikcyrkulu} and {cninyrkulu} anyway, so why not write it like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To po... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016369f9b5ef7ee3a048e69c6ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If tou're going to use .ybu why not drop the 'r' alltogether= ?=A0 xamgykulu

On Aug 22, 2010 9:30 AM, "Ivo Doko" = <ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:=

On 20 August 2010 17:35, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
> {xamgrkulu}
> {zabnrkulu}
> {jikcrkulu}
> {cninrkulu}

I don't know about you but to me the consonant clusters {mgrk},
{bnrk}, {kcrk} and {nrk} don't seem very Lojbanic and regardless of
whether they're Lojbanic or not they're definitely a bit difficult = to
pronounce...

It would be near impossible to pronounce those clusters properly,
instead you'd probably say {xamgyrkulu}, {zabnyrkulu}, {jikcyrkulu}
and {cninyrkulu} anyway, so why not write it like that?


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