From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC8wsvjBBoECOW1wQ@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 23 14:00:13 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1One7Y-0002Yl-Lz; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:00:12 -0700 Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18sf328685wwi.16 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=t+1lHHqKMfxwRT+IsVsptyLaKJHSo2ucgbKQEiz05ls=; b=mpj0l1nkOO0oJpwsV0827ITB6HDtxhejTSxIgO0YmdlBZJF+mb5+AZYJOSl8oATe10 IQEwktWtXkoyxqkF3a9OPW8+tWsTxqHDJyWd3ZU/217dynksesdA5BPSl9j8cwFdUx5I lBdy/V/bUTBFwi+p1/irtuHNjpYpPkWRoIc1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=tleTByt6U6XK/TGCxwP1nhNivYfAuAtrOzQwNVYj00ussZ/Q3gJOs6eNmJJkN9oOjk zlCKjSSg5dnFpf65rLbJpW4q6MkaZvlS4Guks9XVwy7SIukeKcgtdKiiVGKh8FMvW6zj W1m+0LqNfapJ+2QZd/s9f1QHqykp1ApMLw4sI= Received: by 10.216.144.25 with SMTP id m25mr1133859wej.24.1282597180659; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.237.134 with SMTP id y6ls2217628weq.2.p; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.231.21 with SMTP id k21mr184233weq.2.1282597178866; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.231.21 with SMTP id k21mr184232weq.2.1282597178843; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s70si2374979weq.5.2010.08.23.13.59.37; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.178; Received: by mail-wy0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 22so8576792wyf.37 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.231.26 with SMTP id k26mr5056324weq.3.1282597172532; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.93.65 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:59:32 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] lujvo vs. fu'ivla From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf9e14dc116b048e83ec47 --000e0cdf9e14dc116b048e83ec47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Minimiscience wrote: > You do realize that if "This word is derived from an older word" is the > deciding criterion for whether a {fu'ivla} should be made, then literally > almost *every* word in *every* natural language *ever* will be made into a > {fu'ivla}, right? Deriving words from older words is how languages grow, > develop, and eventually split off from other languages. The relatively few > words that are coined on the spot either die off or eventually serve as the > basis for newer words. The more relevant question for {fu'ivla} formation > should be "What percentage of the global population recognizes this word?", > under which very few rank highly. > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > jicmu traji zifre fa loi remna lonu senpi > > .iu.ieru'e la.spagetis. sanmi lo grusko .e lo tamca sanso .e lo recyboi .i ro jbopre ba djuno lu sanmi lo grusko .e lo tamca sanso .e lo recyboi .i xu ro prenu cu djuno lo se sanmi be la.spagetis. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --000e0cdf9e14dc116b048e83ec47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Minimiscience = <minimiscie= nce@gmail.com> wrote:
You do realize that if "This word is derived from an older word" = is the
deciding criterion for whether a {fu'ivla} should be made, then literal= ly
almost *every* word in *every* natural language *ever* will be made into a<= br> {fu'ivla}, right? =A0Deriving words from older words is how languages g= row,
develop, and eventually split off from other languages. =A0The relatively f= ew
words that are coined on the spot either die off or eventually serve as the=
basis for newer words. =A0The more relevant question for {fu'ivla} form= ation
should be "What percentage of the global population recognizes this wo= rd?",
under which very few rank highly.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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jicmu traji zifre fa loi remna lonu senpi

.iu.ieru'e la.spagetis. sanmi lo grusko .e lo ta= mca sanso .e lo recyboi .i ro jbopre ba djuno lu sanmi lo grusko .e lo tamc= a sanso .e lo recyboi .i xu ro prenu cu djuno lo se sanmi be la.spagetis.
--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le= bende pe denpa bu

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