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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban] To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CD1502F8EF1631-1880-ED16@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 74.6.228.83 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2085948765-1283101807=:76730" --0-2085948765-1283101807=:76730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a suggestion (or reminder)!=A0 When you are=20 satisfied witht the corrections, be sure to put it=20 on the Lojban wiki at http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DTexts In Lojban=A0 totus > >From: Seth >To: lojban@googlegroups.com >Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 4:01:43 PM >Subject: [lojban] > > >I cant remember if this is the correct email for the mailing list.=20 > > >anyways, i did a translation lately, and know i made many grammatical erro= rs. I=20 >was hoping someone would care to look through it and help me eliminate the= m. I=20 >would be especially grateful for page numbers from the cll or an explanati= on on=20 >my mistake and how to do it correctly. I am still learning. The document i= s=20 >religious, so if you are offended by such, simply ignore this. I know i ma= de=20 >mistakes with nesting especially, but havent yet found where that is cover= ed in=20 >the cll. It has been over a year since i read it through. I also know that= my=20 >word choice and such do not match the original perfectly. This is a stylis= tic=20 >translator's preference, so I am not really looking for commentary on that= ,=20 >though i will accept it just as well. >=A0the original document is here:=A0http://scriptures.lds.org/en/a_of_f/1 > > >seryf > > >Articles of faith In Lojban > >1. mi=92a krici lo du=92u zasti fa la cevni no=92u le cimni patfu ge=92u e= le ri bersa=20 >no=92u la iezus kristos ge=92u e le censa ruxpre >2. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo prenu cu ba selsfa fi lo ri madzei enai lo la= adam nu=20 >naltinbe >3. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo po=92o la Kristos nunmadzeile=92i cu tadji lo= nu ro remna=20 >se ruxnu=92a lo ri tinbe be lo ro xisterctu ke flalu joi ritli ke=92e >4. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo nunkri fi lo nolraitru no=92u la iezus kristo= s ge=92u ku=20 >ce=92o lo nunmadxagtik ce=92o lo nunjir tezu=92e lo nu selfax lo madzei ku= ku ce=92o lo=20 >nu punji lo xance tezu=92e tu=92a lo seldu=92a po=92u lo nu censa ruxpre k= ansa lu=92u ku=20 >pamoi lo xisterctu ke jicmu joi ritli ke=92e >5. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo nu nanmu ku selmi=92e la cevni cu sarcu lo nu= ctuca fo lo=20 >xisterctu ku e nu catni lo ri ritli ku lo nu cevdatni terdu=92a e nu punji= be lo=20 >xance be lo catni >6. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo cabdei xi=92ojdagri cu mintu lo laldo djedi x= i=92ojdagri lo=20 >za=92i ponse lo mintu selca=92i po=92u lo xisraibortinbe ce lo cevka=92i c= e lo kurji ce=20 >lo ruxctu ce lo ruxkamjundu=92a ce zo=92e >7. mi=92a krici lo du=92u zasti fa lo ruxstati po=92u lo ka banstati ce lo= ka bavju=92o=20 >ce lo nu cevdatni terdu=92a ce lo nu ruxvi=92a ce lo nu ka=92orgau ce zo= =92e >8. mi=92a krici lo du=92u la biblos. cu selsku la cevni kei du=92i lo jei = ra drani=20 >xelfanva .i mi=92a krici ji=92a lo du=92u lo cukta be fi la mormon. cu sel= sku la cevni >9. mi=92a krici lo ro ba=92o je ca ca=92o te fa=92irgau be fi la cevni be= =92o e lo du=92u ri=20 >ba fa=92irgau fi lo so=92i banli je vajni lo ra seltru=20 > >10. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lai isreil cu jmaji e lo du=92u lo pano lanzu c= u selxru e=20 >lo du=92u la zaiyn no=92u la poi remoi djerusalem ge=92u cu ba selzba ne= =92i lo merko=20 >tumla kei e lo du=92u la kristos cu ba turni bu=92u lo terdi kei e lo du= =92u lo terdi=20 >cu selxru lo za=92i cnino je panpi >11. mi=92a posxu=92a lo krali be fa lo nu jdase=92u be la cevni ku ca=92i = lo mi=92a=20 >selmarde gi=92e curmi lo nu lo ro prenu ku smiselkrali lo nu jdase=92u lo = ri selcu=92a=20 >ri bu=92u lo py selcu=92a >12. mi=92a krici lo du=92u ma=92a dejni lo nu ma=92a tinbe ku lo turni e l= o flalu >13. mi=92a krici lo du=92u vrude fa lo nu stace ce lo nu selylacka=92e ce = lo nu=20 >cinvu=92e ce lo nu xendo ce lo nu gasnu be lo nu xamgu .i mi=92a minde lo = la pal nu=20 >stidi .i va=92i mi=92a krici lo ro xamgu gi=92e pacna ri .i mi=92a pu renv= i lo so=92i=20 >raktu gi=92e ba renvi lo ro a=92o mi=92a raktu .i mi=92a sisku tu=92a lo r= o vrude ce ro=20 >melbi ce ro vrude gubykai > >--=20 >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 >"lojban" group. >To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at=20 >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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Just a suggestion (or reminder)!  When you are
satisfied witht the corrections, be sure to put it
on the Lojban wiki at
 
 
totus
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From: Seth <thirderivative@aol.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 4:01:43 PM
= Subject: [lojban]


I cant remember if this is the correct em= ail for the mailing list.=20

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anyways, i d= id a translation lately, and know i made many grammatical errors. I was hop= ing someone would care to look through it and help me eliminate them. I wou= ld be especially grateful for page numbers from the cll or an explanation o= n my mistake and how to do it correctly. I am still learning. The document = is religious, so if you are offended by such, simply ignore this. I know i = made mistakes with nesting especially, but havent yet found where that is c= overed in the cll. It has been over a year since i read it through. I also = know that my word choice and such do not match the original perfectly. This= is a stylistic translator's preference, so I am not really looking for com= mentary on that, though i will accept it just as well.
 the or= iginal document is here: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/a_o= f_f/1

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seryf=

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Articles of faith In Lojban
 
1. mi=92a krici lo du=92u zasti fa la cevni no=92u l= e cimni patfu ge=92u e le ri bersa no=92u la iezus kristos ge=92u e le cens= a ruxpre
2. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo prenu cu ba selsfa fi l= o ri madzei enai lo la adam nu naltinbe
3. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo po=92o la Kristos nunma= dzeile=92i cu tadji lo nu ro remna se ruxnu=92a lo ri tinbe be lo ro xister= ctu ke flalu joi ritli ke=92e
4. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo nunkri fi lo nolraitru = no=92u la iezus kristos ge=92u ku ce=92o lo nunmadxagtik ce=92o lo nunjir t= ezu=92e lo nu selfax lo madzei ku ku ce=92o lo nu punji lo xance tezu=92e t= u=92a lo seldu=92a po=92u lo nu censa ruxpre kansa lu=92u ku pamoi lo xiste= rctu ke jicmu joi ritli ke=92e
5. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo nu nanmu ku selmi=92e l= a cevni cu sarcu lo nu ctuca fo lo xisterctu ku e nu catni lo ri ritli ku l= o nu cevdatni terdu=92a e nu punji be lo xance be lo catni
6. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lo cabdei xi=92ojdagri cu = mintu lo laldo djedi xi=92ojdagri lo za=92i ponse lo mintu selca=92i po=92u= lo xisraibortinbe ce lo cevka=92i ce lo kurji ce lo ruxctu ce lo ruxkamjun= du=92a ce zo=92e
7. mi=92a krici lo du=92u zasti fa lo ruxstati po=92= u lo ka banstati ce lo ka bavju=92o ce lo nu cevdatni terdu=92a ce lo nu ru= xvi=92a ce lo nu ka=92orgau ce zo=92e
8. mi=92a krici lo du=92u la biblos. cu selsku la ce= vni kei du=92i lo jei ra drani xelfanva .i mi=92a krici ji=92a lo du=92u lo= cukta be fi la mormon. cu selsku la cevni
9. mi=92a krici lo ro ba=92o je ca ca=92o te fa=92ir= gau be fi la cevni be=92o e lo du=92u ri ba fa=92irgau fi lo so=92i banli j= e vajni lo ra seltru
10. mi=92a krici lo du=92u lai isreil cu jmaji e lo = du=92u lo pano lanzu cu selxru e lo du=92u la zaiyn no=92u la poi remoi dje= rusalem ge=92u cu ba selzba ne=92i lo merko tumla kei e lo du=92u la kristo= s cu ba turni bu=92u lo terdi kei e lo du=92u lo terdi cu selxru lo za=92i = cnino je panpi
11. mi=92a posxu=92a lo krali be fa lo nu jdase=92u = be la cevni ku ca=92i lo mi=92a selmarde gi=92e curmi lo nu lo ro prenu ku = smiselkrali lo nu jdase=92u lo ri selcu=92a ri bu=92u lo py selcu=92a
12. mi=92a krici lo du=92u ma=92a dejni lo nu ma=92a= tinbe ku lo turni e lo flalu
13. mi=92a krici lo du=92u vrude fa lo nu stace ce l= o nu selylacka=92e ce lo nu cinvu=92e ce lo nu xendo ce lo nu gasnu be lo n= u xamgu .i mi=92a minde lo la pal nu stidi .i va=92i mi=92a krici lo ro xam= gu gi=92e pacna ri .i mi=92a pu renvi lo so=92i raktu gi=92e ba renvi lo ro= a=92o mi=92a raktu .i mi=92a sisku tu=92a lo ro vrude ce ro melbi ce ro vr= ude gubykai

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